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<span class=\"score\" id=\"score_20803854\">1 point</span> by <a href=\"user?id=dickmao\" class=\"hnuser\">dickmao</a> <span class=\"age\"><a href=\"item?id=20803854\">1 hour ago</a></span> <span id=\"unv_20803854\"></span><span class=\"par\"> | <a href=\"item?id=20803631\">parent</a></span> | <a href=\"edit?id=20803854\">edit</a> | <a href=\"delete-confirm?id=20803854&amp;goto=delete-confirm%3Fgoto%3Ditem%253Fid%253D20803631%26id%3D20803854\">delete</a> <a class=\"togg\" n=\"1\" href=\"javascript:void(0)\" onclick=\"return toggle(event, 20803854)\"></a> <span class='storyon'> | on: <a href=\"item?id=20803631\">The Story of Us</a></span>
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I haven&#x27;t learned Esperanto myself, but plenty of people agree that Esperanto is a great starting place if you&#x27;re an adult and only speak one western European language. It&#x27;s a great confidence builder and it&#x27;s a non-punishing opportunity to try out different study techniques. I wouldn&#x27;t be at all surprised if Esperanto then Mandarin will get you to conversational Mandarin more reliably, and possibly also more quickly, than just starting with Mandarin would." :time 1566854156 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "How Does Esperanto Sound?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803746\.json (:by "Miner49er" :id "20803746" :kids (20803851) :parent "20803674" :text "I don&#x27;t think this is the case here. I think it means the younger generations are not patriotic - not simply that they don&#x27;t support the current administration.<p>As a young American, I would rate my patriotism as 0, because Nationalism is antithetical to the ideas of Liberty and Democracy." :time 1566853374 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803851\.json (:by "asdf21" :id "20803851" :kids (20803951 20804041) :parent "20803746" :text "&gt;because Nationalism is antithetical to the ideas of Liberty and Democracy.<p>What makes you think that, exactly?" :time 1566854136 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20797828\.json (:by "gdotdesign" :descendants 51 :id "20797828" :kids (20799615 20800216 20798343 20804356 20797841 20803850 20799895 20802913 20798648 20799780 20799912 20798098 20798590 20800670 20799692 20798808) :score 127 :time 1566800496 :title "Show HN: Base API for authentication, email sending, images and more" :type "story" :url "https://www.base-api.io")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803850\.json (:by "paulcsmith" :id "20803850" :parent "20797828" :text "This looks awesome! What backend framework are you using? I&#x27;m the author Lucky and was wondering if you happened to use it on the backend since you are using Crystal" :time 1566854119 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Show HN: Base API for authentication, email sending, images and more")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803849\.json (:by "truncate" :id "20803849" :kids (20804246) :parent "20803343" :text "I got started in 2007 when I was in high school, as I was stuck using Windows XP on my Pentium 3 computer. I stumbled on Ubuntu, and they would send you CDs for free. Installation was probably easier than Windows, and I think the hardest part was getting drivers for modem, cell phone internet (GPRS?), printers, and later WiFi working. Haven&#x27;t looked back since! Still thankful to Canonical for sending out that free disk to my home. I used that computer for next 2 years, during which time my interest in computers probably got twofold (alternatively, had I stuck with Windows in that PC, I may have lost interest with frustration). Twelve years since, seen Linux grow so much over these years, and I still prefer to use it for my personal computing needs." :time 1566854115 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Installing Debian Linux 2.0 (1998)")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20800530\.json (:by "whatok" :id "20800530" :kids (20800983 20800713 20800738 20800759 20800743) :parent "20796290" :text "If anyone is unfamiliar with the author, she was one of the first mainstream media authors to be critical on Enron and eventually wrote a book on Enron as well." :time 1566832492 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20800759\.json (:by "olivermarks" :id "20800759" :kids (20803848) :parent "20800530" :text "She wrote &#x27;Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room&#x27; subsequently made into an excellent film. I suspect we will be seeing &#x27;Tesla: The Smartest Guys in the Room&#x27; soon. It still rankles me that Nicolai Tesla&#x27;s name is associated with all this." :time 1566834269 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803848\.json (:by "mkl" :id "20803848" :parent "20800759" :text "*Nikola" :time 1566854114 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Elon Musk Gambled Tesla to Save SolarCity")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803847\.json (:by "raverbashing" :id "20803847" :kids (20804024 20803952) :parent "20803792" :text "It&#x27;s such a shame that C gets some things like strings so wrong.<p>Writing in C shouldn&#x27;t have to be so painful, but I guess they were the pioneers in a lot of things and the &quot;high level assembly&quot; idea stuck. (Premature optimization?)<p>Also having objects and method calls, even if it&#x27;s syntactic sugar deep down, is the best kind of syntactic sugar" :time 1566854103 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Why is strlen so complex in C?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803591\.json (:by "mixmastamyk" :id "20803591" :kids (20803846) :parent "20803343" :text "Similar experience though it differed in the details. Downloaded disks from the internet at work. Never had problems with IDE CDROM or booting. Those parts easy.<p>Getting X or sound working, incredibly hard. Scary warnings about frying the monitor and manually writing &quot;modelines.&quot;<p>I remember wasting an entire weekend, morning until night tinkering with zero progress to show for it. After about a week you&#x27;d give up and accept that you made &quot;this much&quot; progress, and would never go further. At least until the next major version came out with improved drivers.<p>Believe I tried the Caldera (or Mandrake?) linux in the late 90s and it was easier to install." :time 1566852404 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803846\.json (:by "jm4" :id "20803846" :parent "20803591" :text "Caldera was the one with the graphical installer where you could play Tetris. I believe Mandrake was the one that was very similar to Red Hat (back around RH 5.2) but I remember it being a little easier to get working.<p>X was difficult. I remember sound being fairly easy if you had a sound blaster or turtle beach. The modem and PPP was where I always got hung up. I finally bought an external modem and that made things much easier." :time 1566854098 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Installing Debian Linux 2.0 (1998)")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803845\.json (:by "ubanholzer" :descendants 0 :id "20803845" :score 1 :time 1566854080 :title "Firms Fire Map Worldwide fire information in the last 7 days" :type "story" :url "https://firms2.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#z:2;c:49.8,2.0;d:2019-08-19..2019-08-26" :link_title "Firms Fire Map Worldwide fire information in the last 7 days")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801311\.json (:by "danso" :id "20801311" :kids (20801517 20801502 20801446) :parent "20801139" :text "You read this story and think it boils down to &quot;hating on Musk&quot;? Which of the story&#x27;s numbers or claims about SolarCity finances and production do you believe are distorted or misleading?" :time 1566837836 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801517\.json (:by "martythemaniak" :id "20801517" :kids (20801622 20803909) :parent "20801311" :text "It&#x27;s more of a meta comment on which stories surface up on Hacker News and other media. The selection of content you get exposed to can matter more than the exact content you consume.<p>I went for dinner to my in-laws a few months ago and my mother-in-law asked if I had heard about the Tesla that caught fire in Shanghai. I said, yeah but did you hear about all the combustion cars that had combusted that day. She had not of course. Didn&#x27;t even know &quot;normal&quot; cars catch fire. Nothing against her in particular (she had seen it on a mainstream TV news program), I&#x27;ve had similar conversations with coworkers, aquiantances, on social media, etc." :time 1566838833 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801622\.json (:by "danso" :id "20801622" :kids (20803844 20801998) :parent "20801517" :text "Genuinely curious: how did you identify this story as being low value? The Shanghai anecdote to me seems self-evidently low value (since the incidence of car fires is still rare, and individual incidents have low impact). But this story&#x27;s headline (on the article page) alleges serious misconduct, as well as financial problems&#x2F;shortfalls that unavoidably impact Tesla." :time 1566839395 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803844\.json (:by "martythemaniak" :id "20803844" :kids (20803982) :parent "20801622" :text "I didn&#x27;t say this particular one was, I was cautioning people against what I see as an instance of a very tight social media bubble.<p>My example may seem low-value, but I&#x27;ve seen lots of very long and detailed discussions around here about Tesla&#x27;s &quot;Executive Exodus&quot;, which fall into the exact same selection bias pitfall." :time 1566854080 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Elon Musk Gambled Tesla to Save SolarCity")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20800157\.json (:by "timothycrosley" :descendants 54 :id "20800157" :kids (20803008 20801906 20802250 20800833 20800420 20800923 20803421 20801500 20801793 20801948) :score 183 :time 1566829847 :title "Show HN: Zero-Config Documentation Websites for Python" :type "story" :url "https://timothycrosley.github.io/portray/")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803008\.json (:by "isbjorn16" :id "20803008" :kids (20803170 20803672 20803206 20804003 20803621 20803691 20803658) :parent "20800157" :text "I was super pumped by this, and took some time to look into pdoc3 too.<p>- <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;pdoc3&#x2F;pdoc&#x2F;issues&#x2F;87\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;pdoc3&#x2F;pdoc&#x2F;issues&#x2F;87</a><p>- <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;pdoc3&#x2F;pdoc&#x2F;issues&#x2F;64\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;pdoc3&#x2F;pdoc&#x2F;issues&#x2F;64</a><p>That&#x27;s a hard pass from me. I&#x27;m not going to link my employer&#x27;s name (much less my own name) to anything with a swastika on it." :time 1566848665 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803672\.json (:by "krilly" :id "20803672" :kids (20803706 20803940) :parent "20803008" :text "There is no question that these are Buddhist swastikas; they are clockwise and also rotated 45 degrees compared to the most common nazi version.<p>It is difficult to appreciate how ubiquitous swastikas are in the Buddhist world until you go there and see them everywhere. I have no doubt that this was an innocent decision." :time 1566852918 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803706\.json (:by "isbjorn16" :id "20803706" :kids (20803752 20803885 20803843) :parent "20803672" :text "It stopped being an innocent decision once it was pointed out and he doubled down.<p>Put another way: I cannot put my or my employer&#x27;s interests in Western markets at risk because something is acceptable in Eastern markets. The maintainer can do whatever he wants to do; I&#x27;m not questioning that. I&#x27;m just saying I won&#x27;t be using it, even if it would save me from sphinx-autodoc fragility." :time 1566853152 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803843\.json (:by "samstave" :id "20803843" :kids (20803937 20804283) :parent "20803706" :text "We need to find to re-own the fucking swastika.<p>Jeasus was fucking murdered on a cross, supposedly made to cary it on his shoulders and forced to wear a crown of thorns.<p>So lets assume (which they did) jewish slaves were forced to make their own death chambers and concentration camps, and where the term ghetto comes from.<p>We have operation paperclip for example. SpaceX wouldnt have existed without the work of the nazi V2 units etc...<p>So stop editing history. The fucking cia wouldnt have existed without the oss... etc etc.<p>So we need to reclaim the fucking swastika as a buddhist symbol for over a THOUSAND years." :time 1566854065 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Show HN: Zero-Config Documentation Websites for Python")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803842\.json (:by "asdf21" :id "20803842" :kids (20803857 20803876 20803923) :parent "20803782" :text "We are easily the best large country (over 150M population or so) as far as any sort of civil liberties, standards of living, etc." :time 1566854063 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20800830\.json (:by "docker_up" :id "20800830" :kids (20801435 20803678 20804202 20801318 20801003 20802617) :parent "20796290" :text "The purchase of SolarCity by Tesla was the single dumbest thing Elon Musk did and it has dire consequences for Tesla the car company. Shareholders definitely have a great chance to sue Musk because he did not do this in the best interest of his shareholders, it&#x27;s in the best interest of his cousin. Co-mingling all parts of his companies (SpaceX buying SolarCity Bonds) is a huge red flag that reeks of corporate malfeasance. He should have let SolarCity die, it would have come back as a stronger company once the initial investors were wiped out." :time 1566834743 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801435\.json (:by "dragontamer" :id "20801435" :kids (20804219 20803069) :parent "20800830" :text "&gt; The purchase of SolarCity by Tesla was the single dumbest thing Elon Musk did<p>Why was it a bad move for Elon Musk?<p>Elon Musk owned many SolarCity shares (in fact, Elon Musk was the chairman of SolarCity). If SolarCity would go bankrupt, Elon Musk would have lost a lot of money and power. Elon Musk saved SolarCity to save his own skin and money. Its not really that hard to imagine.<p>Now Tesla shareholders, who overwhelmingly voted for the merger, made a big mistake. But Tesla shareholders own the company, they are allowed to make whatever decisions they want.<p>Its definitely a sketchy move, but Elon Musk did it correctly. Elon Musk recused his voted, and left it up to shareholder vote. Tesla shareholders only have themselves to blame for this move.<p>EDIT: Even if you voted &quot;no&quot; and were overridden by all of your fellow shareholders, you had plenty of time to sell your Tesla shares to avoid this disaster. Tesla bought SolarCity back in 2016. Plenty of time to sell if you were keeping up with the news." :time 1566838395 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803069\.json (:by "navigatesol" :id "20803069" :kids (20803212) :parent "20801435" :text "The lawsuit alleges a lot more. For instance,that Musk was aware of and didn&#x27;t make known the fact the the SEC was looking at Solar City&#x27;s liquidity position, and that the whole Solar Shingle reveal was a fake to sway the shareholder vote,since the product doesn&#x27;t exist,two years on." :time 1566849109 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803212\.json (:by "Traster" :id "20803212" :kids (20803640 20803291) :parent "20803069" :text "Yes, imagine if Elon Musk announced a technology that could materially move his share price at strategically important points knowing that it was just vapor ware. That would be really bad, but fortunately we know he doesn&#x27;t do that because we&#x27;re all driving fully autonomous Teslas right now." :time 1566850050 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803640\.json (:by "dragontamer" :id "20803640" :kids (20803841) :parent "20803212" :text "No need to look at &quot;self-driving&quot; as proof. Solar City itself came with a lie that Elon was pushing: Solar Shingles.<p>Not only did Solar City fail to make Solar Shingles under the Tesla banner... Elon eradicated their contracts with Home Depot, fully destroying the future of SolarCity.<p>It should be no surprise to anyone that SolarCity is no longer the top solar company in the USA, but has fallen further and further behind. SolarCity, as a company, has been milked and discarded." :time 1566852725 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803841\.json (:by "cma" :id "20803841" :parent "20803640" :text "Each solar shingle turned out to use a traditional connector underneath and not a high tech backplane. Each connector increases the odds of a connector fire, and every single solar shingle has one.<p>Doing it with traditional connectors was a big surprise that revealed the whole thing to be a charade." :time 1566854051 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Elon Musk Gambled Tesla to Save SolarCity")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802050\.json (:by "sjuut" :descendants 63 :id "20802050" :kids (20803043 20803104 20803124 20803222 20803034 20803191 20803019 20803182 20803064) :score 127 :time 1566841825 :title "Super Mario 64 has been decompiled" :type "story" :url "https://github.com/n64decomp/sm64/blob/master/README.md")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803222\.json (:by "ortusdux" :id "20803222" :kids (20803294 20803840) :parent "20802050" :text "I am looking forward to the mods that this will enable. I highly recommend trying mario 64 on dolphin EMU at 1080P with a texture pack. A HD mod that added a few more polygons would really round out the experience." :time 1566850119 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803840\.json (:by "urda" :id "20803840" :parent "20803222" :text "Is a raspberry pi a good-enough platform to run N64 1080P games on?" :time 1566854041 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Super Mario 64 has been decompiled")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803465\.json (:by "labster" :id "20803465" :kids (20803839) :parent "20803302" :text "Hardware stores dont serve food, therefore there are no rules preventing dogs from entering. Its not like a dog could damage the floors or merchandise either." :time 1566851546 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803839\.json (:by "AnimalMuppet" :id "20803839" :parent "20803465" :text "I suppose not. The worst they could do is go after the birds that had figured out the motion-activated doors, and where the bags of birdseed were." :time 1566854036 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "The New Museum of the Dog")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803838\.json (:by "alrs" :id "20803838" :kids (20803973) :parent "20803811" :text "I&#x27;ve used Debian pretty much every day since the first day I installed it, which helps." :time 1566854015 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Installing Debian Linux 2.0 (1998)")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803240\.json (:by "jimmaswell" :id "20803240" :kids (20803314 20803277 20803324 20803264) :parent "20803214" :text "Why would we want RISC-V on laptops?" :time 1566850213 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803314\.json (:by "cmiles74" :id "20803314" :kids (20803681 20804201) :parent "20803240" :text "Maybe it won&#x27;t contain a vendor &quot;management engine&quot;.<p><a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Intel_Management_Engine#Claims_that_ME_is_a_backdoor\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Intel_Management_Engine#Claims...</a>" :time 1566850660 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803681\.json (:by "gruez" :id "20803681" :kids (20803837) :parent "20803314" :text "Maybe, but I doubt it. It&#x27;s there to support a bunch of features that companies want (eg. remote management, trusted computing, etc.). The reason why the consumer version has it is that most consumers don&#x27;t mind, and having a seperate sku with it disabled&#x2F;not present would cost extra. This won&#x27;t change with RISC-V. You might be able to get a low performance part without it, but all the mainstream (ie. high performance) parts will have it." :time 1566852997 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803837\.json (:by "madez" :id "20803837" :parent "20803681" :text "Intel has a huge variety of different models. They are experts in market segmentation. They could do that. But they won&#x27;t, and there are few who could do that.<p>With RISC-V, it is reasonable to expect multiple vendors to provide CPUs. There is a very good case to expect non-backdoored chips." :time 1566854008 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Ascend Chips")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803836\.json (:by "saagarjha" :id "20803836" :kids (20804086 20803888 20804148 20803872) :parent "20803307" :text "The accepted answer fails to understand that the standard library is exempt from following the C standard and makes a number of false or overly prescriptive assertions. (It also doesn&#x27;t answer the question, but that&#x27;s par for the course on Stack Overflow…)" :time 1566854004 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Why is strlen so complex in C?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803214\.json (:by "uncletaco" :id "20803214" :kids (20803240 20803370) :parent "20802594" :text "I wonder if this will contribute to the world having RISC-V laptops sooner rather than later." :time 1566850065 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803370\.json (:by "wmf" :id "20803370" :kids (20803880 20803668 20803534 20803413) :parent "20803214" :text "What OS would they run?" :time 1566850933 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803413\.json (:by "AlexeyBrin" :id "20803413" :kids (20803650 20803521) :parent "20803370" :text "A Linux distro probably, at least initially." :time 1566851195 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803521\.json (:by "FullyFunctional" :id "20803521" :kids (20803554) :parent "20803413" :text "Mostly likely, but Android is but a recompile away (sure, not so for 3rd party apps).<p>Even today, with hardly any hardware, there&#x27;s (to various degree of completion): Debian, Fedora, Slackware, FreeBSD, and seL4." :time 1566851937 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803554\.json (:by "dahfizz" :id "20803554" :kids (20803675) :parent "20803521" :text "&gt; sure, not so for 3rd party apps.<p>Ideally, once there is a JVM that runs on riscv, those apps are ported for free. An openJDK port is underway.<p>I have no idea how much work it would be for Android to port its APIs, but Google certainly has the manpower if this is something they want." :time 1566852198 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803675\.json (:by "FullyFunctional" :id "20803675" :kids (20803835) :parent "20803554" :text "I don&#x27;t know why there would be _any_ porting involved. Arm and RISC-V are so similar that the compiler should take care of it.<p>The major pain points today are the JITs, which applies to Java and JavaScript in particular. There has been preciously little (public) progress on these." :time 1566852934 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803835\.json (:by "dahfizz" :id "20803835" :parent "20803675" :text "&gt; Arm and RISC-V are so similar that the compiler should take care of it.<p>But the compiler (openjdk in this case) still needs to be ported, no?" :time 1566853999 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Ascend Chips")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803834\.json (:by "tyhoff" :id "20803834" :parent "20803799" :text "We are taking it very seriously ;)<p>Happy to hear that an you thought to build this translation service even for early development! It&#x27;s usually an after thought at the companies we&#x27;ve talked to, and an expensive one too." :time 1566853997 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Launch HN: Memfault (YC W19) Crashlytics for Firmware")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20798322\.json (:by "henrik_w" :descendants 102 :id "20798322" :kids (20799771 20800193 20802157 20798527 20801652 20800511 20802511 20798495 20801035 20799319 20799061 20799970 20799898 20800032 20799429 20799855 20799621 20800256 20799649 20802942 20798991 20800064 20798379 20800636 20801201 20799466) :score 448 :time 1566810068 :title "Pronunciations for hexadecimal numbers (1968)" :type "story" :url "https://twitter.com/lizhenry/status/1165760903809130496")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20799771\.json (:by "sjrd" :id "20799771" :kids (20800141 20799900 20800343) :parent "20798322" :text "In French, and more specifically French as spoken in some areas in Switzerland, there is a very natural way of pronouncing hex numbers:<p>1 to F are the normal &#x27;un&#x27; to &#x27;quinze&#x27;. A is &#x27;dix&#x27;.<p>10 is &#x27;seize&#x27;. 11 is &#x27;seize et un&#x27; etc. Until 1F which is `seize et quinze&#x27;.<p>20 to 2F are &#x27;vingt&#x27; until &#x27;vingt et quinze&#x27;.<p>Etc.<p>70, 80 and 90 are called &#x27;septante&#x27;, &#x27;huitante&#x27; (Swiss-specific) and &#x27;nonante&#x27;.<p>A0 is &#x27;dixante&#x27;, then we have &#x27;onzante&#x27;, &#x27;douzante&#x27;, &#x27;treizante&#x27;, &#x27;quatorzante&#x27; and &#x27;quinzante&#x27;.<p>100 is &#x27;cent&#x27;, and from there normal rules apply.<p>Etc.<p>So B78D would be &#x27;onze mille sept cents huitante treize&#x27;.<p>Note that &#x27;soixante dix&#x27; is 6A, <i>not</i> 70." :time 1566826820 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20799900\.json (:by "Signez" :id "20799900" :kids (20799995 20803833) :parent "20799771" :text "Let&#x27;s note that this fall apart in Metropolitan French, where we don&#x27;t say neither « septante » for 70, nor « nonante » for 90 (and even less « huitante » for 80), but « soixante-dix » for 70, « quatre-vingt » for 80 and « quatre-vingt-dix » for 90.<p>It&#x27;s quite a shame, because that solution for reading hexadecimal numbers out loud is quite elegant :)" :time 1566828008 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803833\.json (:by "DoreenMichele" :id "20803833" :parent "20799900" :text "For the folks who know zero French:<p>« soixante-dix » for 70 = <i>sixty-ten</i><p>« quatre-vingt » for 80 = <i>four-twenty</i><p>« quatre-vingt-dix » for 90 = <i>four-twenty-ten</i>" :time 1566853978 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Pronunciations for hexadecimal numbers (1968)")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803832\.json (:by "inflatableDodo" :id "20803832" :parent "20803340" :text "&gt;<i>SpaceX&#x27;s stated goal is &quot;occupy Mars&quot;.</i><p>That does give them a fair amount of leeway when outsiders are trying to judge them on methods. Is also a hubris trap if not incredibly careful." :time 1566853971 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Elon Musk Gambled Tesla to Save SolarCity")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802991\.json (:by "AnimalMuppet" :id "20802991" :kids (20803128) :parent "20802896" :text "When you put it that way, the solution is obvious - <i>the state government needs to spend less money</i>.<p>Note well: I said &quot;obvious&quot;, not &quot;easy&quot; or even &quot;politically possible&quot;. But I think it&#x27;s useful to note that, in important ways, California is doing this to itself." :time 1566848605 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803128\.json (:by "asdfgasd" :id "20803128" :kids (20803831) :parent "20802991" :text "&gt; When you put it that way, the solution is obvious<p>When it&#x27;s put in an ideologically biased way that ignores practical solutions to paying taxes on an increasing property value, it implies another ideologically biased solution that favours the material interests of the rich...<p>Sure." :time 1566849422 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803831\.json (:by "AnimalMuppet" :id "20803831" :kids (20804136) :parent "20803128" :text "Note that &quot;the government has to spend that money, so here are some ways that you can manage to afford to pay your taxes&quot; is <i>also</i> an ideologically biased viewpoint. (It&#x27;s the current default viewpoint, but it&#x27;s still ideologically biased...)" :time 1566853964 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Recognizing the signs of disruption in our urban habitat")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803830\.json (:by "uoaei" :id "20803830" :kids (20803922) :parent "20803809" :text "Being born in 1949, the aftermath of WWII, when the US experienced perhaps its starkest wealth increase on a national and personal level (think American Dream, green lawns, and white picket fences!) and the pathos was high to pursue such ideals, would have still been a boon. Yes one probably would have been drafted into Vietnam but in my view even the national conversation about that war was a healthy one for the country." :time 1566853963 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803473\.json (:by "Nadya" :id "20803473" :kids (20803829) :parent "20803006" :text "<i>&gt;After six months, I attended the international Esperanto conference in Seoul, Korea, and spoke only Esperanto for a few days. I was glad I was doing it, and somewhat glad I did it, but in hindsight maybe should have used that time to learn Mandarin or another language where I can communicate with people that don&#x27;t speak English.</i><p>Esperanto is a language where you can communicate with people that don&#x27;t speak English ;)<p>If you weren&#x27;t already bilingual - the best part about Esperanto is it teaches you <i>how</i> to learn a second language by doing it. It also gets out of your way since, for Romantic-based languages, the grammar and vocabulary mostly stays out of your way and you can focus more on &quot;actually learning&quot; than on building vocab or remembering weird edge cases in the grammar. Your time spent learning Esperanto may have actually created a solid foundation to learning Mandarin, if that&#x27;s what you desire to learn!<p>There are studies that learning Esperanto can aid in learning other languages [0], although many of them are quite dated. It seems many of the studies agree that unless you&#x27;re already particularly adept at learning a new language - learning Esperanto will aid you in learning other languages.<p>[0] <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Propaedeutic_value_of_Esperanto\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Propaedeutic_value_of_Esperant...</a>" :time 1566851590 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803829\.json (:by "jcranmer" :id "20803829" :kids (20803896) :parent "20803473" :text "The studies listed on the Wikipedia page are not particularly persuasive, and some of them have a heavy pro-Eseperanto bias in construction. <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14848019\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14848019</a> has a more thorough criticism of one of the studies in particular." :time 1566853948 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "How Does Esperanto Sound?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803828\.json (:by "solar_panels" :descendants 0 :id "20803828" :score 1 :time 1566853948 :title "Solar Landfills: Turning Trash into Treasure" :type "story" :url "https://hahasmart.com/blog/2987/solar-landfills-turning-trash-into-treasure?ycbclid=IwA" :link_title "Solar Landfills: Turning Trash into Treasure")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803286\.json (:by "bhouston" :id "20803286" :kids (20803316) :parent "20802594" :text "I think that RISC-V has a long way to go to be actually competitive with ARM on a IPC basis. Although it is great to have more competition in the market I believe that this is more of a 5-10 year goal rather than distinctly near term." :time 1566850514 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803316\.json (:by "Taniwha" :id "20803316" :kids (20803323 20804209 20803353) :parent "20803286" :text "RISC-V is an instruction set - I think you&#x27;re confusing that particular implementations of RISC-V (of which there are few yet)" :time 1566850661 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803323\.json (:by "bhouston" :id "20803323" :kids (20803362 20803380) :parent "20803316" :text "But none of them are competitive at all on an IPC basis right?<p>Don&#x27;t get me wrong, I would love a RISC-V chip that is competitive with the ARM chips in smartphones but I think we are quite aways away from it for the time being.<p>RISC-V is most successful as microcontrollers who do not have to be state-of-the-art fast, they just have to work reliably." :time 1566850714 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803362\.json (:by "kinghajj" :id "20803362" :kids (20803581) :parent "20803323" :text "BOOM is close to Ivy Bridge IPC in one benchmark. <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;people.eecs.berkeley.edu&#x2F;~celio&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;people.eecs.berkeley.edu&#x2F;~celio&#x2F;</a>" :time 1566850893 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803581\.json (:by "atdrummond" :id "20803581" :kids (20803743 20804066) :parent "20803362" :text "Using MHz as a divisor really benefits BOOM and extrapolating from IPC makes some assumptions regarding the future ability of the chip to scale to similar frequencies as Intel&#x27;s product line.<p>Assuming the best performing BOOM chip refers to the 2018 HotChips tapeout, that chip operated at 1.0 GHz. The lowest speed Ivy Bridge Core&#x2F;Pentium (a design getting close to a decade old, FWIW) was 2.5 GHz. This means on a core-to-core basis Ivy Bridge is 2.7x more performant. This ignores the benefit of the additional core count of the Core series of Ivy Bridge procs.<p>Today&#x27;s 9900K is also around 40% more performant than the comparable Ivy Bridge (4960X). That would suggest the performance gains modern Intel design holds over BOOM is closer to 3.8x on a core-to-core basis.<p>Being within an order of magnitude performance-wise is impressive given that BOOM is mainly a one-man show. That said, having about a quarter of Intel&#x27;s present chips&#x27; performance doesn&#x27;t strike me as particularly &quot;close&quot;." :time 1566852360 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803743\.json (:by "kinghajj" :id "20803743" :kids (20803827) :parent "20803581" :text "IPC means &quot;instructions per cycle,&quot; so it&#x27;s correct to divide the scores by frequency. Totally agree that in total performance, no realized BOOM chip comes close to mainstream Intel chips. I think Chris is working at Esperanto Technologies (<a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.esperanto.ai&#x2F;technology&#x2F;);\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.esperanto.ai&#x2F;technology&#x2F;);</a> hopefully, they upstream performance improvements to the BOOM open-source repo." :time 1566853361 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803827\.json (:by "atdrummond" :id "20803827" :kids (20804292 20804229) :parent "20803743" :text "I understand and I appreciate the test from an intellectual standpoint. But the IPC definition is orthogonal to meaningful performance benchmarking when I can&#x27;t get real world equivalent clock frequencies of each processor type." :time 1566853936 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Ascend Chips")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803496\.json (:by "garmaine" :id "20803496" :kids (20803698) :parent "20803445" :text "There is plenty of work being done on RISC-V vector computing and GPU equivalents. E.g.:<p><a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.phoronix.com&#x2F;scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=Libre-RISC-V-February-Designing\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.phoronix.com&#x2F;scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=Libre-RI...</a>" :time 1566851766 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803698\.json (:by "monocasa" :id "20803698" :kids (20803826) :parent "20803496" :text "As someone who looked hard into it, RISC-V doesn&#x27;t really make sense for a GPU shaders, IMO. You&#x27;d have to change so many things about how the ISA works that you wouldn&#x27;t get a benefit to using a common ISA. Stuff like how shaders are batched and dispatched, textures accesses make sense to be their own instructions, you want a larger register file on the scalar side, the memory barrier semantics are much more complex, etc.<p>RISC-V might make sense inside of the GPU accelerators though. GFX command list processing, DMA engines, and video codecs all make sense to be something like RISC-V." :time 1566853111 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803826\.json (:by "rjsw" :id "20803826" :kids (20803902 20804062) :parent "20803698" :text "Nvidia are supposed to be using RISC-V inside future GPUs." :time 1566853921 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Ascend Chips")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803825\.json (:by "ceejayoz" :id "20803825" :parent "20803788" :text "102,000 of those are &quot;plant-based meat alternatives&quot;. 46,700 are for &quot;plant-based meat substitutes&quot;. I&#x27;d imagine there are quite a few other synonyms that continue to winnow it down." :time 1566853917 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based chicken")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803748\.json (:by "gamblor956" :id "20803748" :kids (20804385 20803824) :parent "20803340" :text "<i>And if he succeeds, the Mars colony could come to be worth more to SpaceX than its satellite launch business. By a lot.</i><p>While the concept of settling Mars is understandable from an academic perspective, what is the <i>economic</i> justification for claiming that Mars is valuable? Any Martian colony would require hundreds of billions of Earth investment just to become habitable for a few dozen people and there aren&#x27;t any resources on Mars that could be excavated more cheaply there than on Earth." :time 1566853388 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803824\.json (:by "dragontamer" :id "20803824" :kids (20804103) :parent "20803748" :text "I&#x27;ve always liked the idea of a low-gravity forge: mixing metals on Earth is difficult because the heavier metals separate from the lighter metals due to gravity. This wouldn&#x27;t happen in low-gravity situations, so you can truly make &quot;space metals&quot; that cannot be manufactured on Earth.<p>However, this only calls for a LEO (low earth orbit) colony, not really a mars colony. Even then, shipping raw material up to LEO is still mindbogglingly expensive (let alone Mars). So no one has even attempted the experiment yet." :time 1566853916 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Elon Musk Gambled Tesla to Save SolarCity")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803688\.json (:by "antognini" :id "20803688" :kids (20803823) :parent "20802326" :text "If anyone is interested in listening to a little more Esperanto, there&#x27;s a great Esperanto podcast: <a href=\"http:&#x2F;&#x2F;pola-retradio.org&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;pola-retradio.org&#x2F;</a><p>It&#x27;s been a long while since I listened to it, but the speech is very fluent and it&#x27;s about as close to as a &quot;neutral&quot; Esperanto accent as you&#x27;ll get." :time 1566853040 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803823\.json (:by "martinrue" :id "20803823" :parent "20803688" :text "As well as <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kern.punkto.info\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kern.punkto.info</a>, which covers lots of diverse subjects, including many technical ones." :time 1566853908 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "How Does Esperanto Sound?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20794033\.json (:by "bookofjoe" :descendants 42 :id "20794033" :kids (20801447 20798336 20798179 20798895 20799054 20797239 20800421 20799038 20798247 20802173) :score 168 :time 1566752669 :title "A Buddhist monk confronts Japan's suicide culture (2013)" :type "story" :url "https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/06/24/last-call-3")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20798179\.json (:by "gkanai" :id "20798179" :kids (20801972) :parent "20794033" :text "2019 update: Japan Records Lowest Suicide Rate Since Statistics Were First Kept in 1978 <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nippon.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;japan-data&#x2F;h00381&#x2F;japan-records-lowest-suicide-rate-since-statistics-were-first-kept-in-1978.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nippon.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;japan-data&#x2F;h00381&#x2F;japan-records-lo...</a>" :time 1566807263 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801972\.json (:by "umvi" :id "20801972" :kids (20802563 20803822 20803181) :parent "20798179" :text "It&#x27;s still extremely high compared to other countries though.<p>To put it in perspective, nearly as many people die by suicide alone in Japan (per capita) as suicide + guns <i>combined</i> in America (per capita)." :time 1566841417 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803822\.json (:by "oska" :id "20803822" :kids (20804020) :parent "20801972" :text "This is a big claim you&#x27;re making here. I&#x27;m sceptical. Can you provide figures and sources to back it up?" :time 1566853907 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "A Buddhist monk confronts Japan's suicide culture (2013)")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803821\.json (:by "nilkn" :id "20803821" :kids (20804006) :parent "20803783" :text "They probably could&#x27;ve learned Spanish to a degree of conversational fluency in the same time period, though. Esperanto has about 1,000 native speakers. Spanish has about 480 million. You can visit entire beautiful countries with fascinating histories where everyone speaks Spanish or its variants. Beyond that, once you can understand spoken Spanish, you can likely understand a bit of Portuguese as well, and you&#x27;ll be able to learn French and Italian probably at least twice as fast coming from Spanish vs. coming from English." :time 1566853891 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "How Does Esperanto Sound?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801330\.json (:by "taurath" :id "20801330" :kids (20801378 20801570 20802203) :parent "20800907" :text "Also they&#x27;ve been completely left out of the vegetarian market other than for snacks." :time 1566837909 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801378\.json (:by "yters" :id "20801378" :kids (20801425 20801543 20801408) :parent "20801330" :text "French fries and soda are vegetarian." :time 1566838135 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801425\.json (:by "brundolf" :id "20801425" :kids (20801632 20801762 20801555 20801575) :parent "20801378" :text "There was a lawsuit a few years back when vegetarians discovered that McDonald&#x27;s was flavoring their fries with beef juice. I do think they&#x27;ve since stopped the practice." :time 1566838346 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801555\.json (:by "likeabbas" :id "20801555" :kids (20803820 20801596) :parent "20801425" :text "I&#x27;m still fucking mad about that. Frying in beef juice made them taste so much better." :time 1566839029 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803820\.json (:by "cr0sh" :id "20803820" :parent "20801555" :text "I&#x27;m still saddened that Pringles aren&#x27;t cooked in peanut oil any longer - they tasted so much better before; now they&#x27;re fairly bland (regular version)." :time 1566853887 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based chicken")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803819\.json (:by "sterban" :id "20803819" :parent "20801847" :text "The Intelligence by The Economist" :time 1566853883 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Ask HN: What are your favorite educational non-tech podcasts?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803818\.json (:deleted t :id "20803818" :parent "20803374" :time 1566853876 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803817\.json (:by "ducaale" :descendants 1 :id "20803817" :kids (20804043) :score 4 :time 1566853874 :title "All the Useless Windows 10 Features Microsoft Should Remove" :type "story" :url "https://www.howtogeek.com/437942/all-the-useless-windows-10-features-microsoft-should-remove/" :link_title "All the Useless Windows 10 Features Microsoft Should Remove")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802703\.json (:by "chrisco255" :id "20802703" :kids (20802759 20802721 20802746) :parent "20799705" :text "Intuitively, this makes sense. Why would immigrants influx into the United States with no hope of improving their economic situation?<p>From the NY Times article this article critiques: &#x27;A prime example is their claim that “America is the richest country” in the OECD, “but were also the poorest, with a whopping 18% poverty rate—closer to Mexico than Western Europe.”&#x27;<p>The scale of poverty in Mexico is much higher than in the U.S. And higher still in central America. This &quot;3rd World U.S.&quot; narrative is often repeated, but as the author shows it has no basis in reality." :time 1566846373 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802721\.json (:by "refurb" :id "20802721" :kids (20803816) :parent "20802703" :text "Poverty is always relative. Until we change that definition, well always have people in poverty no matter how much the poors Living situation improves." :time 1566846446 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803816\.json (:by "JAlexoid" :id "20803816" :parent "20802721" :text "I mean... Poverty is a well understood concept.
If you&#x27;re able to pay for basic needs* without experiencing hardship - you&#x27;re not poor.<p>* - Basic needs expand with progress. But things like food, shelter, clothes and education are pretty ingrained now." :time 1566853851 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "The Poorest 20% of Americans Are Richer on Average Than Most Nations")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803815\.json (:dead t :deleted t :id "20803815" :time 1566853802 :type "story" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20800632\.json (:by "smacktoward" :id "20800632" :kids (20803340 20800908 20801178 20802581) :parent "20796290" :text "This bit seems pretty damning:<p><i>&gt; As SolarCity struggled to raise money from institutional investors, it began offering individuals a chance to buy what it called Solar Bonds. (“Now you can get paid while driving the solar revolution,” the marketing material said.) But there were few takers—so other parts of the Musk empire took up the slack. According to the shareholder lawsuit, SpaceX acquired $255 million of the bonds.</i><p>Other than Musk&#x27;s involvement in both, what&#x27;s the situation where a company like SpaceX sees a need to plow $255 million into debt obligations issued by a solar panel installer?" :time 1566833317 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803340\.json (:by "btilly" :id "20803340" :kids (20803748 20804240 20803832 20803491 20803438) :parent "20800632" :text "SpaceX&#x27;s stated goal is &quot;occupy Mars&quot;.<p>Being able to land and deploy solar panels at scale is essential to this goal. And Musk has learned the hard way not to trust third party suppliers that he doesn&#x27;t control.<p>SpaceX&#x27;s aspirational goal is to launch something Mars-wards in the 2022 window to identify where the base will be and have some resources. Then send several vehicles and a few people in 2025 to set up a mission. Primary on that mission is to deploy solar panels, and start making methane+oxygen from CO2, water and energy. This is both for a return trip and for people to breathe. Then in 2027 send the first trip that can make a return flight. (Those dates are set by the fact that the Earth and Mars come into a good conjunction for launching from one to the other every 26 months.)<p>Musk says &quot;aspirational&quot;. I think &quot;crazy&quot;. But bump those by 2-5 years and it becomes barely plausible. And the end goal sounds less crazy now than it did 5 years ago. When it sounded less crazy than it was 11 years ago when we all were laughing at him.<p>And if he succeeds, the Mars colony could come to be worth more to SpaceX than its satellite launch business. By a lot." :time 1566850782 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803438\.json (:by "joering2" :id "20803438" :kids (20803814 20803520 20803695) :parent "20803340" :text "Very interesting, but can you elaborate how we could benefit from colonizing Mars? Even more so - how could SpaceX be much more worth by being able to go to Mars, and how others wouldn&#x27;t be able to achieve similar step sometime after them (depriving SpaceX from exclusivity of operation)<p>Mars is much smaller than Earth with much more hostile environment. I heard some ideas of growing trees or putting air on Mars, but just to adjust a flow of a river on Earth could cost millions of dollars; if you add complexity to get it done on Mars I don&#x27;t think a price tag could be even put on it.<p>Visiting Mars - sure who wouldn&#x27;t want it, but other than biologist and geologist, I doubt masses would want to migrate and live there, making SpaceX worth billions in process (that assuming somehow SpaceX would be given an exclusivity to park their rockets on Mars - a body to give such approval doesn&#x27;t even exist and I doubt any single country can claim Mars&#x27; ownership)" :time 1566851389 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803814\.json (:by "btilly" :id "20803814" :parent "20803438" :text "Most people will not want to move to Mars, just as very few Europeans wanted to move to the New World in the 1500s.<p>However while relatively few people want to move to Mars, it is a large absolute number. For example a few years ago when Mars One called for volunteers for a one way trip to Mars, they got 200,000 people volunteering. Even filtering for people whose education and skills would make them useful, they had a large number.<p>One estimate that I saw said that a viable colony would require about 100,000 people to move over a century. And a person leaving Earth can reasonably spend their life savings to do so. The value proposition is essentially sell your house, use the money to move to Mars. SpaceX is planning to make the trip barely above cost. But don&#x27;t forget. They will be landing on a planet where basic infrastructure, starting with energy, oxygen and tunnels, are provided by SpaceX. That&#x27;s going to be billions per year. Of course it will be a long time before that colony is self-sustaining. But when it is, those infrastructure basics will be worth a lot.<p>As for a second contender, developing a rocket that can compete with SpaceX takes over a decade, and many billions of dollars. And then when you try to travel to Mars, you&#x27;re going to be landing on a place where the infrastructure is owned by SpaceX. Musk is likely to welcome the competition...and charge top dollar for fuel for a return trip. So you&#x27;ll have to invest billions more. And once you&#x27;ve done so, you&#x27;ll be competing against an established competitor who is charging thin margins. And you still won&#x27;t be in that lucrative infrastructure business.<p>As for who owns it legally...I believe that the people who live there will claim the land that they settle. And will create their own laws. They would mostly come from the USA where legal tradition resolves all property disputes in favor of squatter&#x27;s rights. There will be room for all for a long time, but guess who the first and biggest squatters would be?" :time 1566853799 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Elon Musk Gambled Tesla to Save SolarCity")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20797393\.json (:by "bretpiatt" :descendants 27 :id "20797393" :kids (20798162 20798331 20798308 20799743 20798182 20798315) :score 44 :time 1566792328 :title "Giant Pumice Raft Floating Towards Australia Could Replenish Great Barrier Reef" :type "story" :url "https://www.tpr.org/post/giant-pumice-raft-floating-towards-australia-could-help-replenish-great-barrier-reef")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20798331\.json (:by "adrianN" :id "20798331" :kids (20798626 20800289 20798399) :parent "20797393" :text "The reef is a lost cause. Corals won&#x27;t survive global warming. Even if we manage to limit warming to 1.5° a large fraction will die. Currently we&#x27;re on a 4°+ course." :time 1566810207 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20798626\.json (:by "barry-cotter" :id "20798626" :kids (20803813) :parent "20798331" :text "The reef, as currently constituted, is a lost cause, assuming neither political nor technological solutions to global warming emerge. Genetically engineered coral or algae is one possibility[1][2]. Another is carbon sequestration by massive production of olivine sand weathering in the ocean[3]. The cost of reversing anthropogenic climate change since the 1750s are about $16 trillion, which if done over 10 years, would cost 1.7% of global GDP.<p>[1]<a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.independent.co.uk&#x2F;environment&#x2F;coral-reef-genetically-engineered-climate-change-great-barrier-global-warming-a8318756.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.independent.co.uk&#x2F;environment&#x2F;coral-reef-genetic...</a><p>[2]<a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.frontiersin.org&#x2F;articles&#x2F;10.3389&#x2F;fmicb.2017.01220&#x2F;full\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.frontiersin.org&#x2F;articles&#x2F;10.3389&#x2F;fmicb.2017.0122...</a><p>[3]<a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;elidourado.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;dawn-of-geoengineering&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;elidourado.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;dawn-of-geoengineering&#x2F;</a>" :time 1566815341 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803813\.json (:by "achenatx" :id "20803813" :parent "20798626" :text "another is mutations by coral allowing them to survive in higher temperatures." :time 1566853790 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Giant Pumice Raft Floating Towards Australia Could Replenish Great Barrier Reef")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20796290\.json (:by "AndrewBissell" :descendants 172 :id "20796290" :kids (20803374 20804018 20800830 20800632 20801139 20800530 20804181 20800843 20803584 20796349 20803189 20801557 20803602 20803342 20804174 20801600 20801766 20800724 20803738) :score 113 :time 1566775171 :title "Elon Musk Gambled Tesla to Save SolarCity" :type "story" :url "https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/how-elon-musk-gambled-tesla-to-save-solarcity")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801139\.json (:by "martythemaniak" :id "20801139" :kids (20803531 20803150 20803250 20801311 20803253 20803312 20801712 20801514 20801581 20801202 20803089 20801535) :parent "20796290" :text "Well, Tesla is one long stream of gambles. You dont get to school an established, global, trillion dollar industry without taking risks.<p>The only notable thing here is that hating on Musk is really popular these days. So the failed gambles (this, falcon doors, the initial overautomation of the Model 3 production, etc) will be highlighted and mocked, while the successful gambles will go unmentioned or incorporated as a matter-of-fact developments.<p>Running Tesla stories through a selection bias filter is really useful, as it&#x27;ll discard most stories that pop up." :time 1566836862 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803531\.json (:by "seem_2211" :id "20803531" :kids (20803812 20803926 20804005) :parent "20801139" :text "Pretty unsurprising really - sure, hating on Musk is popular, but it&#x27;s mostly a reaction to the fawning uncritical gaze most people give him, and the way he&#x27;s portrayed as this genius who is amazing at executing.<p>Elon Musk is great at promising stuff, and then terrible at executing. For every promise he fulfills there are 20 that he doesn&#x27;t. But sure, the guy who flies private everywhere and shitposts more than I do is &quot;working 100 hour weeks&quot; and &quot;cares for the environment.&quot;" :time 1566851983 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803812\.json (:by "martythemaniak" :id "20803812" :kids (20804076) :parent "20803531" :text "I have a buddy - amicable, smart, did great in a tough school, did even better career wise, responsible for dozens of people, etc - who nevertheless explodes with anger and hatred and goes on 15-minutes tirades if someones brings up Musk in any positive light whatsoever. It is quite a shocking sight.<p>&quot;Reaction&quot; is the key word here. The opposite of a fanboy is not a hater, it is the person who doesn&#x27;t care. The fanboy and the hater are two sides of the same coin - they both develop an obsession with a person and define their personalities as a function of this person. Whether that function is love or hate is secondary.<p>The way out of his is to ignore him, or judge him by his work. He sells cars - really good cars. For example, they have the best range and are incredibly safe. Your emotional reaction won&#x27;t make you car&#x27;s range go down, or make you any less safe in a crash." :time 1566853766 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Elon Musk Gambled Tesla to Save SolarCity")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20798102\.json (:by "voltagex_" :descendants 45 :id "20798102" :kids (20803343 20804025 20803132 20803003 20803548 20803447 20804019 20803705 20802978 20803867 20803709 20803629 20803199 20803149) :score 50 :time 1566805718 :title "Installing Debian Linux 2.0 (1998)" :type "story" :url "http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/main/disks-i386/current/install.html")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803343\.json (:by "alrs" :id "20803343" :kids (20803849 20803485 20803591 20804160 20803811 20803495 20803736 20803414) :parent "20798102" :text "So here&#x27;s what installing Debian was like in 1998.<p>Short of going to a first-tier University AND having a campus job that allowed you near the ethernet jacks, you were either going to spend weeks downloading disk images over your 38.4 kbps modem, or you were going to buy a collection of Linux distributions + the Sunsite archive on a 5-cd set that was released quarterly and available at computer stores.<p>Assuming that your CDROM spoke standard ATAPI instead of some weird hooks-up-to-a-soundcard interface from 1994, you probably had to create a floppy boot disk by dd&#x27;ing it off the cdrom, as your BIOS was 50&#x2F;50 able to support the El Torito extensions that allowed a CDROM to boot the computer.<p>The dialog-based installer wasn&#x27;t too different from now, IIRC. I think it was Debian that had options for installing from not just floppy and ftp, but NFS as well.<p>Once the machine was booted, you hoped to see &quot;LILO&quot; was successfully installed to bootsector and you could choose which OS to boot. If LILO didn&#x27;t install right, it would just present &quot;LI&quot; and a blinking cursor. If you still had DOS on the machine, the recourse was to use a DOS floppy boot disk and use the undocumented &quot;fdisk &#x2F;mbr&quot; command to put a normal DOS boot sector back on your hard drive.<p>Once the machine was up, you most likely had to get PPP working with your modem. Hopefully you had an external modem. Minicom was close enough to Telix that you&#x27;d use that to make sure that AT commands were making it to the modem, and then you went down the rabbit hole from there.<p>Getting X working sucked. I think by 1998 there was a helper script for generating your XFree86 conf, but even that would most likely require some hand-tweaks. If at this point you had your modem working you could at least get online with PPP or even just a plain shell account to start searching DejaNews for hints on how to get that working.<p>dselect was awesome, it felt like being connected to the world&#x27;s hugest BBS, where you were guaranteed that every piece of software in the archive would work on your machine.<p>Now you&#x27;re a few days in: You&#x27;ve got X working (probably at a wonky refresh rate), you can connect to the Internet (when your ISP has an open line and you aren&#x27;t hitting a busy signal) and you&#x27;ve got Netscape installed. Getting your soundcard working is probably still a week off." :time 1566850807 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803811\.json (:by "marmaduke" :id "20803811" :kids (20803838) :parent "20803343" :text "Amazing, how do you remember all that? It was similar for me as well.<p>I heard a piece on NPR on Linux. I had played with Dos for Dummies and got my parents to buy a copy of Suse 5. After a harrowing 6 hour installation process on my parent&#x27;s 33MHz 386, I needed the discard rescue floppy to recover the Windows boot.<p>I would&#x27;ve been a programmer at that age but lacked mentor&#x2F;support." :time 1566853762 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Installing Debian Linux 2.0 (1998)")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803810\.json (:by "save_ferris" :id "20803810" :parent "20803721" :text "Im the exact same way. I look around and think “no way am I bringing offspring into this world.”<p>I got really lucky being OK at programming and finding my way into a decent paying career, but its so disheartening to see so many around me struggle with no end in sight.<p>Add to that climate change, and its definite no for me." :time 1566853758 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803734\.json (:by "uoaei" :id "20803734" :kids (20803957 20803809) :parent "20803674" :text "Members of the younger generation (myself included) have little experience with administrations who demonstrate their fealty to the abstract ideals of the USA. We have, with few exceptions, not been led by people who have the US <i>populace</i> -- in contrast to its economy and hegemony -- at the forefront of their minds. NAFTA, and globalization more broadly, and its effects has progressed to the point where the promises of prosperity in the age of unfettered trade should have shown some signs of success at the personal level by now -- and yet, here we are. We see and hear about other parts of the world which are harmed by these policies. The authorities on the matter, however, explain it away by pointing at GDP growth curves. But these great results aren&#x27;t reflected in our lives: burdened by debt and historically low net worths, we&#x27;ve lost faith in those who came before us who keep telling us it&#x27;s all part of the game. Not so if we were born 70 years ago.<p>To a large extent, I&#x27;d say that this has resulted in a cynical and rather extreme position of &quot;actions speak louder than words&quot;. Those who represent the USA, being elected officials in keeping with the mythos of the modern representative democracy, are doing a poor job of showing their decency, if there is any hidden inside to begin with. The notable exception is of course Bernie Sanders, who, even if somewhat ineffective during his time in office, was and is steadfast, honest, and genuinely caring about the people individually and as a whole. He demonstrates his alignment with the people&#x27;s needs far more than anyone else in the political field today, even as hamstrung as he was, aside from maybe Elizabeth Warren. The rest are opportunists, lying through their teeth and brushing off serious blemishes on their record to their own detriment. See: Bernie&#x27;s policy platforms 4 years ago and how much is reflected in nearly all candidates&#x27; platforms today.<p>We&#x27;re pretty peeved that this blatant deceit is lost on the older generations. From our (my) perspective, the USA has always been shoddy and the people haven&#x27;t cared about grave injustices as long as their lot in life is stable. Only a few shining stars have risen in those 250-ish years that have made any real progress on ethical issues." :time 1566853317 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803809\.json (:by "bryanlarsen" :id "20803809" :kids (20803830) :parent "20803734" :text "&gt; Not so if we were born 70 years ago.<p>Really? That means growing up during late 60&#x27;s, 70&#x27;s, 80&#x27;s.<p>Vietnam, Watergate, trickle-down economics, ..." :time 1566853743 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803808\.json (:by "fest" :id "20803808" :kids (20803882) :parent "20801512" :text "I did browse the site, but couldn&#x27;t find in what way exactly the mechanism telemetry&#x2F;faults get passed from microcontroller to their backend.<p>For the last products I have touched, this would probably be the toughest part- abstracting&#x2F;reimplementing whatever mechanism the device is already using to communicate with something that may have internet access (USB, UART, Bluetooth, LoRa) and tying in that end (mobile&#x2F;desktop&#x2F;connected device)." :time 1566853729 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Launch HN: Memfault (YC W19) Crashlytics for Firmware")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803807\.json (:by "musicale" :id "20803807" :parent "20796427" :text "Transcoding and post-processing should really be easy and legal, but DRM and anti-circumvention say otherwise.<p>Not to mention that fast-forward should not be deactivated when I want to skip an advertisement on a movie disc I purchased." :time 1566853719 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Major book publishers sue Amazons Audible over new speech-to-text feature")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803806\.json (:by "rubicon33" :id "20803806" :kids (20803929 20803953 20803887 20803961 20803860) :parent "20803786" :text "How are kids - in any way, shape, or form - an afterlife?<p>They are an independent person, with independent thoughts + suffering.<p>When my Dad dies (for example)... he&#x27;s not going to somehow magically continue to enjoy the work, and relationships, that he&#x27;s enjoyed while alive." :time 1566853716 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803484\.json (:by "bhouston" :id "20803484" :kids (20803503) :parent "20803445" :text "GPUs have sort of plateaued except for the raytracing component. There are quite a few vendors, Mali from ARM, Adreno from Qualcomm, PowerVR from Imagination, NVIDIA&#x27;s GeForce, AMD&#x27;s Radeon, Intel&#x27;s integrated stuff, and then there is a few more smaller players (what Matrox, Broadcom, etc.)<p>I think there is room for an open source straightforward GPU based on the standard principles. Although maybe there is patent licensing between all the parties that I am not aware of." :time 1566851679 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803503\.json (:by "mmanfrin" :id "20803503" :kids (20803622 20803945) :parent "20803484" :text "&gt; GPUs have sort of plateaued except for the raytracing component<p>What? As far as I understood it, CPUs had plateaued outside of efficiencies, GPU power still follows Moore&#x27;s. Generational benchmarks show big leaps in every new arch on userbenchmark, whereas CPUs from 7 or 8 years ago are only marginally slower (SC) than modern ones." :time 1566851813 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803622\.json (:by "ksec" :id "20803622" :kids (20803712 20803704) :parent "20803503" :text "&gt;Generational benchmarks show big leaps in every new arch on userbenchmark,<p>That is because GPU scales very well with Transistor count, throw in more transistor and memory bandwidth and you are good. On the CPU you could have doubled the transistor budget and get marginal improvement in IPC." :time 1566852589 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803712\.json (:by "hutzlibu" :id "20803712" :kids (20803805 20803858) :parent "20803622" :text "Can you explain, why CPU&#x27;s do not scale so well?" :time 1566853172 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803805\.json (:by "devit" :id "20803805" :parent "20803712" :text "Because GPUs always run trivially parallelizable workloads and CPUs usually don&#x27;t." :time 1566853708 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Ascend Chips")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20791582\.json (:by "deepaksurti" :descendants 148 :id "20791582" :kids (20792219 20792002 20793000 20792026 20793408 20793699 20792930 20791979 20791975 20794811 20793947 20792105 20796005 20794822 20792086 20794076 20794818 20793078 20792188 20794790 20792658 20793474 20794952 20795230 20792008 20791759 20793915 20794094) :score 167 :time 1566712532 :title "I Took a Pay Cut for a More Meaningful Job" :type "story" :url "https://www.fastcompany.com/90308995/i-took-a-huge-paycut-for-a-more-meaningful-job")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20792219\.json (:by "JSavageReal" :id "20792219" :kids (20792448 20792266 20793417 20792471 20795170 20793536 20792355 20795472 20797405) :parent "20791582" :text "The problem with trying to find meaningful work is that 1. the pay is generally terrible, and hours will likely be long 2. if someone is paying you, it&#x27;s still a &quot;job&quot;, with all the implications, responsibilities, and power dynamics that go with that. You still take orders from a boss all day. And if it were so damn fun, then they probably wouldn&#x27;t be paying you for it.<p>The most fun internships&#x2F;jobs I&#x27;ve ever had were all unpaid, because I could come and go as I please, and literally work on whatever I wanted. The second you&#x27;re getting paid, your personal interests are thrown out the window, and your job is now to take orders from your boss.<p>Of course there are exceptions. I&#x27;d imagine that being a tenured professor would be pretty sweet (though getting a job like that these days is extremely difficult and competitive), or if you&#x27;re a doctor then helping save lives in Africa or something would probably be extremely fulfilling. Being a politician seems like it would feel meaningful, and they get paid solid six figure salaries.<p>But overall, the search for a meaningful job that also pays decently and doesn&#x27;t require crazy hours is like searching for a unicorn, so for most people with the talent&#x2F;luck&#x2F;opportunity of working high paying jobs, achieving financial independence first before seeking meaningful work is probably the smartest move." :time 1566728418 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20792266\.json (:by "yodsanklai" :id "20792266" :kids (20792810 20792513) :parent "20792219" :text "&gt; being a tenured professor would be pretty sweet<p>The grass is always greener.<p>I was a tenured professor (the European equivalent). Overall it was a very good position but not necessarily meaningful, and certainly not lucrative. Besides, being somewhat a second-class researcher, I was kind of stuck in my university.<p>I thought for a long time this was the Graal job, until I realized that there were so many cool things to do. I eventually switched job, and I regret that I hadn&#x27;t done it before. Simply changing job is very refreshing." :time 1566730148 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20792810\.json (:by "gyuserbti" :id "20792810" :kids (20794718 20803804 20793489) :parent "20792266" :text "Also tenured professor who left. I don&#x27;t think of myself as second rate but academics, at least in many fields of the US, is becoming full of bullshit-chasing fads. Universities see your role as to bring in money from the federal gov, which means constant pressure to join bandwagons even when you vehemently disagree. I never felt as little intellectual freedom as I did in my tenured position. Mix it with dysfunctional top-heavy administration and it&#x27;s a toxic mix. It probably varies by institution too, but then you run into the bizarre stochastic kobuki of academic hiring in a Ponzi scheme environment with excess graduates." :time 1566739456 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803804\.json (:by "bransonf" :id "20803804" :parent "20792810" :text "If you had tenure, why weren&#x27;t you free to research whatever you like?<p>In other words, what recourse did the university have at that point?" :time 1566853695 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "I Took a Pay Cut for a More Meaningful Job")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803803\.json (:by "jacobolus" :id "20803803" :parent "20803763" :text "This is aimed at elderly people making a living from a pension, social security, etc. Not for people currently earning a full-time salary." :time 1566853683 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Recognizing the signs of disruption in our urban habitat")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803802\.json (:by "jariel" :id "20803802" :parent "20803721" :text "This is a deeply nihilist position.<p>FYI religion is not &#x27;some guy in a cloud&#x27; and I&#x27;ll suggest there&#x27;s the possibility that a narrow interpretation of Scientific Materialism has led you to your state of depression.<p>Why so many smart people are unable to see past this material construct is beyond me, like a generation stuck in a mental Chinese finger puppet.<p>Consider for a moment that life is not something material, but that which is expressed through it, and it&#x27;s a wonderful opportunity, worth continuing.<p>That said, there are plenty of others around to pick up the slack of building the future." :time 1566853679 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803555\.json (:by "killjoywashere" :descendants 3 :id "20803555" :kids (20803801 20803671 20803600) :score 1 :text "Hiring for a fairly senior position, but the best option candidate keeps asking for more time to consider the offer. I have a few candidates in the wings that are reasonable but not ideal replacements. How long do you wait?" :time 1566852216 :title "Ask HN: How long do you wait for a great candidate?" :type "story")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803801\.json (:by "davismwfl" :id "20803801" :parent "20803555" :text "Depends somewhat on how long you&#x27;ve been looking to fill the position and the position speciality itself. But my general rule for most software positions is anything over a couple of weeks waiting for a senior candidate to make a decision and I&#x27;d tell them we will have to rescind the offer and move on (jr candidates is a week for me generally but there are exceptions). I also offer fair salaries from the start and don&#x27;t play any games trying to negotiate, if the candidate says they want X more, I&#x27;ll see if it fits and if so give it to them, if not I won&#x27;t. I generally don&#x27;t have that problem often though because I start with a strong offer within our limits.<p>If you know you offered a low salary for the experience candidate then first, shame on you, second fix it and see if that resolves it but be careful not to make it all about money. A fair salary with fair benefits in a good environment will beat a slightly higher salary that has a blah working environment. And senior candidates can tell from interviews which is which.<p>Easiest thing to do is reach out and just ask what is it that is hanging you up on making a decision. Be up front and see what they say, maybe they were waiting for an offer that promised them a magic amount of money, which doesn&#x27;t even mean it is that different than your offer, but maybe it checks some goal box for them. Or maybe they are waiting to see if a special company accepted them, usually you have to figure that out by reading between the lines as most people won&#x27;t be direct and say that. Don&#x27;t do this via email or IM, get the person on the phone or video call and just have a talk.<p>As a counter to my argument, some friends that hire at other companies will not put a defined limit but they make every offer contingent on the position still being open. So essentially if they make you an offer this week and you take 3 weeks to respond they may have filled it and so no longer have a position for you. But they don&#x27;t push you to make a decision. I don&#x27;t personally like this method, but it can be efficient." :time 1566853676 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Ask HN: How long do you wait for a great candidate?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803800\.json (:by "sys_64738" :id "20803800" :parent "20803519" :text "America is becoming more socialist." :time 1566853672 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801512\.json (:by "fra" :descendants 41 :id "20801512" :kids (20802043 20802247 20803808 20801891 20801885 20801806 20802709 20802052 20803415 20801789 20801969) :score 102 :text "Hi everyone!<p>We&#x27;re Chris, François, and Tyler, founders of Memfault (<a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;memfault.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;memfault.com</a>). Memfault helps firmware teams find and fix issues before customers start calling (or worse, tweeting!) by providing a small &lt;3kB SDK to include in the firmware and a web dashboard to manage releases, monitor devices, and view crashes. In the software world, Crashlytics, Sentry, and other error monitoring systems have been offering similar solutions for years. Memfault is the first such solution for firmware.<p>Embedded devices today are very different from ones built 10 years ago. Then, a device would run a small piece of firmware in a while() loop, capture input, compute some logic, write to a small 7-segment display, and that was about it.<p>Today, new products have a wireless connection to the internet, a bright 320x320 full color LCD, a high quality microphone and speaker for Alexa integration, and sometimes even run machine learning or computer vision algorithms on device! Building hardware products in 2019 is a significant software project, it requires software tools.<p>The three of us met at Pebble in 2013, where we shipped 4 watches together. Chris and Tyler went on to work at Fitbit, while François went to Oculus. Each time, we found ourselves building all of our tools from scratch which slowed us down tremendously. Imagine having to build a log collection solution every time you want to build a new web app!<p>As a result of the effort required to build them, the tools available to firmware engineers are not up to the task. For example, the state of the art in debugging requires connecting a physical debugger to your board. To investigate an error report from the field, customers must be contacted, devices shipped back, and enclosures disassembled. By the time this is all done, flash logs have rolled over, variables have reset, and developers are left scraping together raw data from flash to debug the issue. It can take weeks to get to the bottom of an issue that would be root caused in minutes with reasonable tools.<p>We&#x27;ve long wanted to show people what Memfault can do without the hurdle of integrating our SDK into their code. Today, we are launching a zero code, try-it-at-your-desk version of our tool available at <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;memfault.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;memfault.com</a> (click on the &quot;Try Memfault&quot; button&quot;). In about 5 minutes, you should be able to connect a ARM Cortex-M based development board and upload an error report using a GDB script. If you do not have a board, you&#x27;ll be able to interact with an example error report.<p>We could go in at length about the implementations (ask us questions in the comments!). One thing we&#x27;re especially proud of is the &quot;Globals &amp; Statics&quot; tab which lets you query the state of any static or global variable in your system. To get this to work, we cross compiled libdwarf to wasm via emscripten and used it to implement parts of an in-browser debugger which can be used to look up values for a known symbol given an elf file and a Memfault core file.<p>We&#x27;d love to hear what you think, and find out what other tools you&#x27;ve found helpful in this space. Looking forward to the discussion!" :time 1566838795 :title "Launch HN: Memfault (YC W19) Crashlytics for Firmware" :type "story")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803415\.json (:by "ggregoire" :id "20803415" :kids (20803454) :parent "20801512" :text "&gt; In the software world, Crashlytics, Sentry, and other error monitoring systems have been offering similar solutions for years. Memfault is the first such solution for firmware.<p>Just curious, why can&#x27;t Sentry be used in a firmware? (I don&#x27;t do firmware dev)" :time 1566851203 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803454\.json (:by "fra" :id "20803454" :kids (20803799 20803536) :parent "20803415" :text "There are a few concepts that do not map neatly:<p>1. For firmware, each user is on their own hardware. Rather than a session you need to track a device and the state thereof. Devices exist for a longer period of time than sessions do, and you need to have a concept of &quot;device history&quot;.<p>2. Sentry assumes backtraces can be generated on the client side, which is impractical for firwmare<p>3. Our focus on embedded allows us to run some more specific analysis. For example we automatically detect if your MPU (memory protection unit) is misconfigured on an ARM chip." :time 1566851474 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803799\.json (:by "btashton" :id "20803799" :kids (20803834) :parent "20803454" :text "I built a translator service between my devices and Sentry to take the memory dump and a known symbol file to rebuild the context serverside and send it back to Sentry. I only used this during development and early testing, but it was super useful.<p>At one point I thought about building this out more, so I&#x27;m glad to see someone is taking this on more seriously." :time 1566853663 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Launch HN: Memfault (YC W19) Crashlytics for Firmware")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20796729\.json (:by "mrfusion" :descendants 103 :id "20796729" :kids (20797170 20796869 20804110 20797255 20797186 20797222 20797090 20796799 20800296 20797050 20800254 20800437 20800408 20797871 20797135 20799115 20797057 20797188 20798013 20800822 20797074 20797123 20797018 20799356 20796946 20797158 20798217 20797116 20797081 20797091 20796941 20796847 20797032 20797342 20799464 20797299 20800510 20797823 20796845 20797225 20796967 20796949) :score 71 :text "Im curious what everyone would recommend for a new blog? I really want to focus on the writing and not deal with updates and viruses. But Id still like to do a good degree of customization and plugins and a custom domain name." :time 1566780924 :title "Ask HN: Best Blogging Platform" :type "story")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20797170\.json (:by "dceddia" :id "20797170" :kids (20797191 20801927 20801995 20797289 20797291) :parent "20796729" :text "To avoid updates and viruses, go with a static site.<p>There are a ton of good static site generators out there. My blog[0] runs on Jekyll[1]. Hugo[2] is a popular option. I&#x27;ve fiddled with Gatsby[3] and heard good things. Eleventy[4] looks as close to Jekyll-but-in-JavaScript as I&#x27;ve seen.<p>Since you want to be able to customize it, I&#x27;d probably take the static site generator&#x27;s language into account. Do you like...<p>Ruby? -&gt; Jekyll[1]<p>Go? -&gt; Hugo[2]<p>JavaScript? -&gt; Gatsby[3] or Eleventy[4]<p>Some other language? -&gt; google &quot;[language] static site generator&quot; and see how many GitHub stars it has.<p>Once you&#x27;ve figured that out, most of the hosts support custom domains. Netlify[5] is free, and works very well. It&#x27;s what I use currently. I used to host my site on DigitalOcean[6], but Netlify is definitely more painless, especially from a devops&#x2F;patching standpoint. Plus it has a CDN so your site would be faster.<p>[0] <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;daveceddia.com&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;daveceddia.com&#x2F;</a><p>[1] <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jekyllrb.com&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jekyllrb.com&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gohugo.io&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gohugo.io&#x2F;</a><p>[3] <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gatsbyjs.org&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gatsbyjs.org&#x2F;</a><p>[4] <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.11ty.io&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.11ty.io&#x2F;</a><p>[5] <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.netlify.com&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.netlify.com&#x2F;</a><p>[6] <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.digitalocean.com&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.digitalocean.com&#x2F;</a>" :time 1566789042 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20797191\.json (:by "nyolfen" :id "20797191" :kids (20801809) :parent "20797170" :text "big props to hugo for using a static binary without some insane dependency chain, i&#x27;m really pleased with it. hosting my blog on a $15&#x2F;y vps with a vanity domain and hugo was one of my first projects to learn to manage a server, and i gave up with jekyll after way too much struggling with ruby.<p>that said i&#x27;m not sure how it fares wrt to plugins, i think it&#x27;s pretty vanilla in terms of user-facing features (though plenty of very straightforward theme tweaking is possible)." :time 1566789279 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801809\.json (:by "OJFord" :id "20801809" :kids (20803798) :parent "20797191" :text "I was balking at $15 (for a static site) until I re-read and got &#x2F;y right. Who offers that?" :time 1566840458 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803798\.json (:by "nyolfen" :id "20803798" :kids (20803925) :parent "20801809" :text "i use ramnode but you should check out lowendbox, they aggregate cheap vps services and deals" :time 1566853661 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Ask HN: Best Blogging Platform")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20790456\.json (:by "prostoalex" :descendants 160 :id "20790456" :kids (20793934 20793741 20794911 20793548 20793599 20796174 20793539 20791533 20794469 20793425 20795566 20796420) :score 136 :time 1566690893 :title "What Companies Are For" :type "story" :url "https://www.economist.com/leaders/2019/08/22/what-companies-are-for")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20793934\.json (:by "caseysoftware" :id "20793934" :kids (20794025 20795690 20794805 20795742 20796137 20794487) :parent "20790456" :text "As I&#x27;ve noted elsewhere:<p><i>Private corporations acting in quasi-government ways is risky at best and terrifying at worst. While some of the checks &amp; balances in civil+legal society have been broken, many are still there and there are repercussions when they&#x27;re broken.<p>A corporation doesn&#x27;t have the same mechanisms - public rules (aka laws), processes, appeals, accountability, etc, etc - built in and there&#x27;s limited recourse when their definition of &quot;right&quot; and others&#x27; conflicts.</i><p>Based on this new assumed role, it&#x27;s begging for more government regulation. And unfortunately, it makes sense for governments to say &quot;as you take a more active role in society, you need more public oversight.&quot;" :time 1566751704 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20794025\.json (:by "seibelj" :id "20794025" :kids (20794493 20803049 20795927 20794163 20796740 20795717) :parent "20793934" :text "And once a corporation takes on the roles of government, it naturally needs to be protected from competition lest the essential government functions it provides get threatened.<p>We shouldnt be demanding more from our corporations, we should be demanding less. Companies should produce goods and services at the highest quality for the lowest price, and let free citizens choose between them - and if the goods for sale are subpar - let the same free citizens start their own competitor.<p>History is a never ending see-saw, and we are now sawing back towards protectionism, big government, and less freedoms for the individual. At the very least it will once more teach painful lessons to a new generation that doesnt remember the past." :time 1566752584 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20794493\.json (:by "numakerg" :id "20794493" :kids (20794513 20797209) :parent "20794025" :text "&gt;let the same free citizens start their own competitor.<p>Except that starting a competitor often requires far more capital than the incumbents needed to reach their position. I don&#x27;t support protectionism, but &quot;true free market&quot; economics are an illusion used to prevent and tear down regulations." :time 1566756727 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20794513\.json (:by "ttoinou" :id "20794513" :kids (20794643 20796278 20794738) :parent "20794493" :text "Would you have examples? Starting SpaceX required far more capital than NASA?" :time 1566756940 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20794738\.json (:by "TravisLS" :id "20794738" :kids (20796755 20795454) :parent "20794513" :text "There are tons of examples of this. Basically any company with a real competitive advantage is very expensive to unseat once established. Try to unseat Amazon, Google, Facebook, or Apple with the capital that launched those companies." :time 1566759040 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20795454\.json (:by "gridlockd" :id "20795454" :kids (20795712 20795912) :parent "20794738" :text "Google unseated Altavista and Yahoo, Facebook unseated MySpace and Friendster, each with less capital than its predecessor had available.<p>It might seem inconceivable today that these giants could fall, but they absolutely can.<p>Even if these giants don&#x27;t fall, they can&#x27;t just act as they wish, just because they have a dominant market position.<p>They&#x27;re kept in check by the fact that their products are easily replaced <i>if</i> they raise prices well beyond cost of replacement. As a result, they <i>don&#x27;t</i> raise prices and the potential competition never emerges - which in terms of the social outcome is just about as good as active competition.<p>There&#x27;s an exception to this which the article mentions: Companies that sell themselves as &quot;too big to fail&quot; or &quot;socially important&quot; to gullible or corrupt politicians. The market can&#x27;t fix this, only politics can." :time 1566765929 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20795912\.json (:by "ineedasername" :id "20795912" :kids (20799564) :parent "20795454" :text "Those companies, and Google and Facebook themselves were all miniscule compare to what Google and Facebook are now. Once you get that big, no scrappy startup is going to take you down. It would take dozens of smaller companies chipping away for years or decades. And plenty of times they would just get purchased by the big huys. Just Like what happened with IBM, and even then IBM is both still around, very big, and very entrenched within some areas of industry and Enterprise. And generally <i>not</i> because they out compete with better products." :time 1566770821 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20799564\.json (:by "gridlockd" :id "20799564" :kids (20800148 20800860) :parent "20795912" :text "No scrappy startup is going to take them down at every level of their business at once, but they can still create competition, even if they&#x27;re just out there to be acquired.<p>For instance, Facebook is losing engagement to Snapchat, Snapchat is losing engagement to TikTok, and so on. As a result, there is constant pressure to evolve.<p>IBM may still be around, but it&#x27;s a totally different company now. Nobody uses &quot;IBM PCs&quot; anymore. Remember, back in the day those were very expensive, relatively speaking. IBM was as big as it ever was, relatively speaking. Yet, cheap clones by smaller companies drove down profits to make IBM give up on the market.<p>Also, IBM may still be a big company, but you&#x27;d be hard pressed to find a segment where they are absolutely dominating, unlike back in the day. I never said small guys will bankrupt and annihilate the giants, I&#x27;m saying competitive pressure from below is there at all times, no matter how big you are." :time 1566825072 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20800860\.json (:by "ineedasername" :id "20800860" :kids (20801689) :parent "20799564" :text "<i>not &quot;at every level of their business all at once&quot;</i> This is pretty much exactly what I said in saying it would take many companies a very long time to chip away.<p>And sure, competitive pressure is there, but it can be at such a low level as to be nominally meaningless. Whether or not IBM dominates any segment, they are still around, despite being in many products and use cases, not at all the best option. That says to me the idea that competition will results in the best products at the lowest price points (the great-great etc comment that started this) is simply not the case except in a sort of platonic idealization of capitalistic competition that only imperfectly, when at all, plays out in reality.<p>I&#x27;m not even saying we should ditch that model of capitalist competition, though I clearly think it should be subject to regulation &amp; oversight that a pure free-market libertarian wouldn&#x27;t like. I don&#x27;t know that there&#x27;s a better alternative than a hybrid competition-with-oversight model. I just think we should keep our eyes open. We shouldn&#x27;t blindly act from a position of philosophical assumptions that such competition will solve all problems. Or when it might solve them, that it will do so in an acceptable time frame, e.g., more than a century of industrial pollution without a competitive solution until the (less than perfect, better than nothing) implementation of the EPA.<p>Heck the entire concept of path dependency in economics exists to help explain why inferior choices may persist despite the possibility of better alternatives in a way that defies the &quot;competition will provide&quot; mantra. [0]<p>[0] <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Path_dependence#Illustration\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Path_dependence#Illustration</a>" :time 1566834952 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801689\.json (:by "gridlockd" :id "20801689" :kids (20803274) :parent "20800860" :text "&gt; Whether or not IBM dominates any segment, they are still around, despite being in many products and use cases, not at all the best option. That says to me the idea that competition will results in the best products at the lowest price points (the great-great etc comment that started this) is simply not the case except in a sort of platonic idealization of capitalistic competition that only imperfectly, when at all, plays out in reality.<p>I think you have trouble with the distinction between &quot;the best&quot; and &quot;good&quot;. In market terms, &quot;the best&quot; is that which the market chooses. If the market decides that cheap junk shall succeed, so it will. Quality and cost are at odds, obviously. In some cases the market will even choose <i>expensive</i> junk, that&#x27;s generally the success of effective marketing.<p>To understand why this mechanism is nevertheless desirable, we need to look at the alternative: A planned economy and design by committee. Those mechanisms tend to result in products that are neither good <i>nor</i> cheap. The real argument for capitalism isn&#x27;t that market economies are great (though they are), but that none of the alternatives have ever worked out any better.<p>Perhaps a technological revolution can usher in a better system at some point, but whoever advocates for that had better done an elaborate computer simulation first.<p>&gt; I&#x27;m not even saying we should ditch that model of capitalist competition, though I clearly think it should be subject to regulation &amp; oversight that a pure free-market libertarian wouldn&#x27;t like.<p>The first thing to note is that regulation rarely fulfills its purpose without unintended consequences that require further regulation later on. Furthermore, regulation usually benefits the big guys, who can afford to deal with it.<p>That&#x27;s not to say you shouldn&#x27;t have any regulation. Market externalities can not be dealt within from within a market framework alone. It is to say that regulation should be a last resort." :time 1566839807 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803274\.json (:by "ineedasername" :id "20803274" :kids (20803797) :parent "20801689" :text "I&#x27;m not having any trouble distinguishing anything here. I understand the market allows for gradients in quality. But I&#x27;m arguing against the premise that started this thread. It was that a free market would result in the highest quality goods at the lowest price. The mere presence of cheap junk does itself undermine that argument. The free market isn&#x27;t especially efficient if massive resources are used to produce short-lived items when they might instead be used to produce more durable ones. The incentives of the free market tend to align to choose near-term benefit whether or not it might result in long term harm, or simply greater cost.<p>Anyway, your comments on the potential for a better system and market externalities show we&#x27;re probably not too far away from each other on the general issue. Somehow we just ended up on opposite sides of this particular thread. There&#x27;s not much of a better alternative on the table. I agree regulation shouldn&#x27;t be the first course of action to any issue that might reasonably be solved by the market within a reasonable amount of time. What is &quot;reasonable&quot; being dependent on any particular issue&#x27;s circumstances. (as examples, the market might be left to resolve issues of consumer inconvenience, but ones of public safety should get much closer scrutiny). The pendulum between the excesses of capitalism and those of regulation will swing back and forth, hopefully better approximating the ideal balance with each pass. And maybe at some point we&#x27;ll be able to do better than this messy method." :time 1566850454 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803797\.json (:by "gridlockd" :id "20803797" :parent "20803274" :text "&gt; I&#x27;m not having any trouble distinguishing anything here. I understand the market allows for gradients in quality.<p>I haven&#x27;t made myself clear enough then: &quot;The best&quot; can still be <i>awful</i>, it&#x27;s just better than whatever the next best alternative is, from a market perspective.<p>The market, at the end of the day, is people. If people reward short-lasting and cheap products over long-lasting and more expensive products, those are the &quot;best products&quot; in terms of adaptation to market demand.<p>They&#x27;re never the best products in terms of resource usage or the environment or some other externality. That is unless that&#x27;s what the market rewards, which it does to some degree, see &quot;green advertising&quot;.<p>&gt; The free market isn&#x27;t especially efficient if massive resources are used to produce short-lived items when they might instead be used to produce more durable ones.<p>Nevertheless, market economies tend to be more efficient than non-market economies at allocating resources to where they are needed. This is because of local information advantage.<p>As I said, perhaps some future technology can be even more efficient at allocating resources than a market made out of people.<p>&gt; But I&#x27;m arguing against the premise that started this thread. It was that a free market would result in the highest quality goods at the lowest price.<p>You didn&#x27;t read that right. The OP started out by saying what companies <i>should</i> do: Produce the best products at the lowest prices. It&#x27;s a prescription, not a prediction.<p>Of course what companies actually <i>would like</i> to do is sell the worst products at the highest prices. It&#x27;s just that the market won&#x27;t let them get away with it, unless they have <i>really good sales and marketing</i>, which is a big cost in and of itself.<p>In effect, the tendency with mass market products is to lower prices towards marginal cost and improve (or reduce) quality to acceptable levels, but not beyond. In the niches, for those people who really care and are ready to pay the price, there&#x27;s still room for excellent products, maybe with a &quot;lifetime warranty&quot;" :time 1566853649 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "What Companies Are For")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801847\.json (:by "Quanttek" :descendants 13 :id "20801847" :kids (20804335 20804375 20804287 20804204 20803243 20803389 20803446 20802931 20803542 20803819 20802726 20802411) :score 10 :text "I am currently listening to Opening Arguments, Revisionist History, 99% Invisible, and Thinking Allowed but I feel like I&#x27;m missing some podcasts that may be less current but offer more substance&#x2F;significant and profound content (instead of looking at tidbits of interesting topics)" :time 1566840677 :title "Ask HN: What are your favorite educational non-tech podcasts?" :type "story")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802411\.json (:by "throwaway8879" :id "20802411" :kids (20803796) :parent "20801847" :text "An obvious one is Dan Carlin&#x27;s Hardcore History. I&#x27;d also suggest audiobooks if you&#x27;re looking for something more substantial. I&#x27;m currently revisiting the classics and found a great reading of Plato&#x27;s Republic. Before this, I had a great time listening to an audiobook of Will Durant&#x27;s book The Story of Philosophy which is a nice summary of Western philosophy.<p>YouTube seems to have full audiobooks, some of which are of great quality. There&#x27;s a version of Nietzsche&#x27;s Thus Spoke Zarathustra that is highly entertaining and even enlightening, if that&#x27;s your thing. There is a good librevox recording of Wittgenstein&#x27;s principle book that I&#x27;ve started on recently, and was surprised how good it was.<p>So I suppose I&#x27;d suggest audiobooks over podcasts for in-depth material." :time 1566844245 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803796\.json (:by "woopwoop" :id "20803796" :parent "20802411" :text "Lots of public libraries also allow you to download audiobooks from their websites." :time 1566853632 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Ask HN: What are your favorite educational non-tech podcasts?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803795\.json (:by "rbanffy" :descendants 0 :id "20803795" :score 1 :time 1566853620 :title "Google AI's new algorithm will let smartphones read sign language" :type "story" :url "https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/google-ais-new-algorithm-will-let-smartphones-read-sign-language-1668078" :link_title "Google AI's new algorithm will let smartphones read sign language")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803794\.json (:by "jujun" :id "20803794" :kids (20803932) :parent "20802326" :text "I speak Esperanto since I was 15 years old, (now I am 30). I even met my GF with it 10 years ago. It&#x27;s something great to meet very interesting and generous people anywhere on earth. And it&#x27;s also a nice programming language." :time 1566853618 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "How Does Esperanto Sound?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803793\.json (:by "ma2rten" :descendants 0 :id "20803793" :score 1 :time 1566853615 :title "Waymos robot taxi service is improving, but riders still have complaints" :type "story" :url "https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/26/20833215/waymo-self-driving-car-taxi-passenger-feedback-review" :link_title "Waymos robot taxi service is improving, but riders still have complaints")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803307\.json (:by "azhenley" :descendants 19 :id "20803307" :kids (20803836 20803792) :score 30 :time 1566850601 :title "Why is strlen so complex in C?" :type "story" :url "https://stackoverflow.com/q/57650895/938695")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803792\.json (:by "Ididntdothis" :id "20803792" :kids (20804339 20804360 20803878 20804221 20803847) :parent "20803307" :text "Have there been any efforts to add real string types and maybe arrays to C? Seems a lot of complications come from the primitive&#x2F;not existing implementation of strings and arrays." :time 1566853608 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Why is strlen so complex in C?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20798852\.json (:by "danso" :id "20798852" :kids (20799868 20799064) :parent "20798699" :text "&gt; <i>Why is it people get paid twice for contributing nothing to bring it to another medium?</i><p>I&#x27;m a little confused, but who are the people who are getting &quot;paid twice for contributing nothing to another medium&quot;?" :time 1566818164 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20799868\.json (:by "bitexploder" :id "20799868" :kids (20800171 20800080) :parent "20798852" :text "Audio books are performance and story. Its not just the words. It is a substantially different work of art, even if it is the same story. I think that is where the GP is too reductionist." :time 1566827681 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20800171\.json (:by "derefr" :id "20800171" :kids (20803295 20800246 20800491) :parent "20799868" :text "Audiobooks <i>add</i> on top of the original book; but I would argue that you could train a human being with a set of deterministic rules that they can use to transform an audio-book <i>into</i> the exact text of the text-book that was published, with 100% fidelity, 100% of the time. Which is to say, an audiobook is a <i>lossless embedding</i> of the original text-book. If youre buying the audiobook, youre already buying the text-book; its <i>in</i> there!<p>Another way to look at it: if you own a music video, do you have a license for the song that the music video is a music video <i>of</i>? I would argue you do—you <i>have</i> to have that license, to <i>be able to</i> have a license for the MV, just like you have to own licenses to all the tracks <i>on</i> an album, to be able to claim to have a license for listening to the album.<p>And, as such, it really wouldnt make sense to <i>attempt to sell</i> licenses to consumption of MVs, that dont implicitly include licenses to consumption of the audio tracks within said MVs. (Has anyone ever argued that people dont have a right to use youtube-dl to extract the audio track from MVs publicly-posted by their rights-owners? I assume, if they did, this argument went about as well as arguing you cant record music off the radio...)<p>This is the equivalence being offered here: a text book is to an audiobook as the audio track of a music video is to the MV itself: a <i>component</i>. In the case of a text book, its not one thats literally there in bits; but since it can be extracted with 100% fidelity, the information that component is made up of is clearly there, in the thing you bought. Its no different than if an audio track was embedded in your video but was reversed or something." :time 1566829960 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20800491\.json (:by "danso" :id "20800491" :kids (20802571 20803300) :parent "20800171" :text "&gt; <i>Another way to look at it: if you own a music video, do you have a license for the song that the music video is a music video of? I would argue you do—you have to have that license, to be able to have a license for the MV, just like you have to own licenses to all the tracks on an album, to be able to claim to have a license for listening to the album.</i><p>This analogy isn&#x27;t going to clarify things. First of all, I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s necessary to bring opinion and speculation into this, e.g. &quot;I would argue you do&quot;, if there is actual law here.<p>So with music videos and songs, I would be very surprised if owning a music video automatically and simply granted you a license to the song. Ignoring the fact that videos frequently feature tracks specifically cut and rearranged for video (Michael Jackson is an obvious example), I think the main issue is that songs and videos have multiple copyright holders, and it&#x27;s too complicated to be a relevant analogy.<p>IANAL, but if I were to record a high-quality video of a live band performance, the video recording is my property. I can take it home, rewatch it, etc. But I think it&#x27;s obvious that I don&#x27;t in any way &quot;own&quot; the copyright to the song I filmed. I can&#x27;t extract the audio, burn it a CD, and sell it. And I&#x27;m pretty sure I would have very few commercial rights to distribute the video itself, if the band members never signed modeling contracts.<p>&gt; <i>I assume, if they did, this argument went about as well as arguing you cant record music off the radio...</i><p>OK, I don&#x27;t think this is terribly important to debate, but are you implying that settled law says people have the right to record off the radio? That&#x27;s definitely not my (amateur) understanding.<p>&gt; <i>In the case of a text book, its not one thats literally there in bits; but since it can be extracted with 100% fidelity, the information that component is made up of is clearly there, in the thing you bought.</i><p>This will sound like a quibble but I think it&#x27;s fundamentally important to point out: text from an audiobook <i>cannot</i> be &quot;extracted with 100% fidelity&quot;. Whether it&#x27;s 100% fidelity or much worse isn&#x27;t even the point. What you assert simply isn&#x27;t so. But I&#x27;ll be happy to admit I&#x27;m wrong if you find an audiobook from which you&#x27;ve extracted all the text content, perfectly, as well as supplementary text like footnotes, indices, headers, illustrations, and captions, and of course, page numbers. It goes without saying that visual data like layout and typography are also components of book with value, but I think you get my point." :time 1566832246 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802571\.json (:by "cortesoft" :id "20802571" :kids (20803373) :parent "20800491" :text "&gt; I can&#x27;t extract the audio, burn it a CD, and sell it.<p>No, but what this is about is saying &quot;am I allowed to listen to just the music without also watching the video? Can I play it on my phone with the screen off? Or do I have to pay extra to do that?&quot;" :time 1566845506 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803373\.json (:by "gamblor956" :id "20803373" :kids (20803472 20803791) :parent "20802571" :text "Yes, you can play it on your phone with the screen off. You&#x27;re still playing the video and processing the graphical data.<p>What would not be permissible is stripping the audio track from the video to play separately. That would generally be copyright infringement and there are limited circumstances under which a fair use defense would apply." :time 1566850944 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803791\.json (:by "cortesoft" :id "20803791" :parent "20803373" :text "&gt; What would not be permissible is stripping the audio track from the video to play separately<p>Even for personal use, where you aren&#x27;t sharing the extracted audio? I am pretty sure that would be allowed." :time 1566853605 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Major book publishers sue Amazons Audible over new speech-to-text feature")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803790\.json (:by "rbanffy" :descendants 0 :id "20803790" :score 1 :time 1566853590 :title "New tools to minimize risks in shared, augmented-reality environments UW News" :type "story" :url "https://www.washington.edu/news/2019/08/20/shared-augmented-reality-environments/" :link_title "New tools to minimize risks in shared, augmented-reality environments UW News")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801967\.json (:by "dmix" :id "20801967" :kids (20802316 20802084) :parent "20801734" :text "Do you know why people <i>think</i> it&#x27;s bad meat compared to the supermarket? Is it just the general attitude society has developed towards fast-food and big business?<p>I don&#x27;t mind KFC but Taco Bell meat always seemed a bit...off and low quality." :time 1566841383 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802084\.json (:by "icxa" :id "20802084" :kids (20802184 20802162 20802204) :parent "20801967" :text "Because the meat you buy in the grocery store goes bad after a few days, and (here is where I think parent is being slightly intellectually dishonest) while it is true that the fast food companies certainly source their meats from authentic, standard-holding institutions, that&#x27;s only the beginning. That isn&#x27;t to say the rounds of processing and preservation that occurs afterwards. You <i>can&#x27;t</i> just buy a McDonalds chicken nugget off the shelf. Sure the inputs are the same, but the outputs are vastly different, and that&#x27;s where the perceived difference in quality comes from. Fast food optimizes for longentivity, ease of cooking so they can reduce the labor costs associated in preparing that meat, and eliminating sanitation issues so they reduce their total liability and loss around food borne illnesses so they can reduce the labor costs associated in preparing that meat for you. That is why McDonalds undergoes the painstaking process of sanitizing their meat with an ammonia wash (prompted by the 90&#x27;s nationwide beef e-coli outbreaks that resulted in serious litigation against popular burger joints), then adding in artificial flavorings back in to make it taste like a burger again (furthermore this is how McDonalds achieves that &quot;miraculous&quot; feat often described here when this topic comes up of having their burgers taste the same and have the same consistent product everywhere for over 20 years).<p>Tl:dr; yes it is true, inputs are the same as what you get in the store, but the outputs are vastly different. You have to factor in additives and preservation process. There really is a simple &quot;sniff&quot; test&#x2F;heuristic I have developed after my decades in food service, and it&#x27;s not really a secret, but seems like some aren&#x27;t in on it, and it goes like this: If it goes bad, it&#x27;s good, if it doesn&#x27;t go bad, it isn&#x27;t good. (Good is obviously subjective here, so my criteria is obviously &quot;real&quot; food in the sense that it is minimally processed and preserved and minimal chemical additives)" :time 1566842050 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802184\.json (:by "devinhelton" :id "20802184" :kids (20802253) :parent "20802084" :text "<i>That is why McDonalds undergoes the painstaking process of sanitizing their meat with an ammonia wash (prompted by the 90&#x27;s nationwide beef e-coli outbreaks that resulted in serious litigation against popular burger joints), then adding in artificial flavorings back in to make it taste like a burger again (furthermore this is how McDonalds achieves that &quot;miraculous&quot; feat often described here when this topic comes up of having their burgers taste the same and have the same consistent product everywhere for over 20 years).</i><p>For what it is worth, McDonald&#x27;s says on their web site that this is not true. So either you are mistaken or McDonald&#x27;s is committing fraud. Do you have a source for your claim?<p>From the McD&#x27;s web site ( <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mcdonalds.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;about-our-food&#x2F;our-food-your-questions&#x2F;burgers.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mcdonalds.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;about-our-food&#x2F;our-food-y...</a> ):<p>&quot;Every one of our burgers is made with 100% pure beef and cooked and prepared with salt, pepper and nothing else—no fillers, no additives, no preservatives.&quot;<p>&quot;<i>Do you use so-called &#x27;pink slime&#x27; in your burgers or beef treated with ammonia?</i>&quot;<p>&quot;Nope. Our beef patties are made from 100% pure beef. Nothing else is added. No fillers, no additives and no preservatives.<p>&quot;Some consumers may be familiar with the practice of using lean, finely textured beef sometimes treated with ammonia, which is referred to by some as “pink slime.” We do not use this. &quot;" :time 1566842652 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802253\.json (:by "icxa" :id "20802253" :kids (20802371 20802306) :parent "20802184" :text "Full disclaimer: Info coming from a variety of sources: some documentaries which I know have their own inaccuracies, some my own personal experience in food service, and specifically working at McDonalds, and some having an ex-girlfriend of 3 years who was the district manager of another international large fast food burger chain, so by chance that gleaned me a lot of insight into the inner workings of fast food burger chains (he was previously a DM of several Golden Arches)<p>I haven&#x27;t read this page recently (it certainly has changed much), but on skimming through, none of the terminology McDonalds uses on their website are meaningful in the sense that the standards there is no official definition and could not be distinguished between similar competitors that make similar claims besides simply what they say, and, more importantly, there is no regulated term between what constitutes beef being “pure” or “not pure” or otherwise put. Its just some “thing” they say about their beef and we have to take them up on their word. Now if they said “we use USDA organic ground beef” that might have some teeth. Its the same thing between a bag of candy telling you they no longer use artificial flavors and now use “natural” flavors.<p>Now the question of do I believe they have changed? Possibly. Do the burgers taste different? No, so common sense tells me you dont drastically change your process like this and still get the same tasting burger from 20 years ago.<p>But I will actually do something uncommon here and admit I could be wrong, and have an outdated understanding of their process." :time 1566843112 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802306\.json (:by "tptacek" :id "20802306" :kids (20802757) :parent "20802253" :text "McDonalds does in fact use 100% USDA-inspected beef, with &quot;no fillers, additives, or preservatives&quot;, and explicitly does not use mechanically separated meat. It&#x27;s not &quot;organic&quot;, but then, most beef isn&#x27;t." :time 1566843446 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802757\.json (:by "icxa" :id "20802757" :kids (20803789 20802832 20802901 20803303) :parent "20802306" :text "Then I am happy to say I am happy for their recent changes, this certainly wasnt the case a few years ago when I wrote them off, and even more not the case 10 years ago when I was still in the industry. I think it should be promoted as an example that consumer pressure and expectations can cause companies to change for the better.<p>I will say I remain skeptical on exactly how they can go from the ammonia wash + chemical food flavoring process to using fresh beef and not have any discernible difference in taste or food safety, but kudos to them." :time 1566846676 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803789\.json (:by "phonypc" :id "20803789" :parent "20802757" :text "The ammonia (when it was present) was present in such small amounts that it couldn&#x27;t conceivably have altered the flavor, and they were never using &quot;chemical food flavoring.&quot; The only change they&#x27;ve made recently is using fresh instead of frozen for a few products. It has always been just beef." :time 1566853587 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based chicken")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801478\.json (:by "koolba" :id "20801478" :kids (20802436 20801645 20801666 20802012 20801547 20802142) :parent "20800907" :text "&gt; Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper and <i>less gross</i> at the same time, and it might help them cut down on calories and improve their health image.<p>Which is “less gross” is highly objective.<p>&gt; I wonder what impact it&#x27;ll have on climate change when McDonalds stops buying real beef.<p>Would be a nice longbet, “<i>McDonalds will stop selling beef burgers by 20XY</i>”. Id be on the “no” side of that bet." :time 1566838657 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801645\.json (:by "adrianN" :id "20801645" :kids (20801805 20803551) :parent "20801478" :text "They will eventually stop selling beef burgers made from real cows. Lab grown meat will replace them. I don&#x27;t know enough about the current state of lab grown meat to give an estimate for XY, but it seems inevitable to me." :time 1566839547 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801805\.json (:by "ghaff" :id "20801805" :kids (20801913) :parent "20801645" :text "Ground meat is almost certainly the lowest bar for substituting. I&#x27;d argue the artificial meat is already pretty close (although probably at a higher cost, at least at the low end). There are probably gourmet burgers that are still better--though high-end meat cuts are at least somewhat of a waste in a burger.<p>Somewhat amusingly, I first had an Impossible Burger not knowing that it was not real &quot;meat.&quot; I didn&#x27;t find out until a few months later. It tasted like a perfectly good burger to me.<p>[ADDED: Lab-grown is apparently more accurately used to specifically refer to food made from animal cells. I guess &quot;plant-based&quot; meat is the more common term with &quot;meat&quot; distinguishing from traditional vegi-burgers in the grocery freezer.]" :time 1566840430 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801913\.json (:by "zodiac" :id "20801913" :kids (20801971) :parent "20801805" :text "Impossible Burger isn&#x27;t lab-grown meat" :time 1566841061 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801971\.json (:by "gizmo385" :id "20801971" :kids (20803066 20802072 20802399 20802070 20802695 20802086) :parent "20801913" :text "What would you consider Impossible Burger, if not lab-grown meat?" :time 1566841415 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802072\.json (:by "colobas" :id "20802072" :kids (20802205) :parent "20801971" :text "A plant-based burger. Lab-grown meat is made from animal cells" :time 1566841950 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802205\.json (:by "ghaff" :id "20802205" :kids (20802255 20802814 20802464) :parent "20802072" :text "The &quot;lab-grown&quot; term is [EDIT: sometimes and apparently incorrectly] used for plant-based meat substitutes like Impossible Burger. It probably shouldn&#x27;t be, but it is." :time 1566842748 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802464\.json (:by "neltnerb" :id "20802464" :kids (20802582) :parent "20802205" :text "I have never heard anyone so confused that they can&#x27;t tell the difference between &quot;animal that was never alive&quot; and &quot;made from vegetable products&quot;. This isn&#x27;t confusing, and I will need evidence to believe that it is &quot;widely used&quot;. I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;ve ever even heard someone attempt to conflate the two before you.<p>But I acknowledge that just because this is completely obvious to me and I&#x27;ve never met someone who was confused about the difference doesn&#x27;t mean they don&#x27;t exist." :time 1566844723 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802582\.json (:by "ghaff" :id "20802582" :kids (20803493) :parent "20802464" :text "I honestly don&#x27;t care what people call the different types of meat substitutes. Plant-based meat seems a bit odd to me because it&#x27;s not, you know, meat. But it seems to be the term in use.<p>Yes, I understand that there is a difference between grown from meat cells and made from plants with components that make it look and taste more like meat." :time 1566845604 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803493\.json (:by "ceejayoz" :id "20803493" :kids (20803788) :parent "20802582" :text "I haven&#x27;t seen many offerings saying plant-based <i>meat</i>.<p>I&#x27;ve seen plant-based burger, plant-based sausage, etc." :time 1566851741 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803788\.json (:by "ghaff" :id "20803788" :kids (20803825) :parent "20803493" :text "There are only 579,000 results for that phrase from a Google search.<p><a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;search?q=%22plant-based+meat%22&amp;oq=%22plant-based+meat%22&amp;aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.4452j0j7&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;search?q=%22plant-based+meat%22&amp;oq=%2...</a>" :time 1566853581 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based chicken")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802509\.json (:by "ingve" :descendants 14 :id "20802509" :kids (20802804 20802930 20803350 20803284 20802803) :score 59 :time 1566845103 :title "Swift on Raspberry Pi" :type "story" :url "https://blog.lickability.com/swift-on-raspberry-pi-e44c79fc32f3")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802803\.json (:by "chadlavi" :id "20802803" :kids (20803398 20803787 20802986 20803125 20803308) :parent "20802509" :text "&gt; The official programming language of Raspberry Pi is Python.<p>Huh? In what way exactly?" :time 1566846995 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803787\.json (:by "CarlRJ" :id "20803787" :parent "20802803" :text "The nominal purpose of the Raspberry Pi is education. The Raspberry Pi Foundation (RPF) sells Pi&#x27;s commercially and they fold the profits back into their education program. They present Python as a good language to use on the Pi (for their educational uses), just as they recommend using Raspbian (their Debian variant) as the OS, but neither of those are required. They certainly don&#x27;t <i>discourage</i> people from running other languages on them.<p>Having said that, a Raspberry Pi running Python under Raspbian is a great little machine for special purpose tasks. I have half a dozen at home, with 15k lines of Python running in my living room (weather station, home automation, etc.)." :time 1566853579 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Swift on Raspberry Pi")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803721\.json (:by "rubicon33" :id "20803721" :kids (20803810 20804059 20803939 20803976 20803786 20803802 20804027 20804057) :parent "20803519" :text "I can tell you why &quot;patriotism, religion and having children&quot; have never been values for me (32 yr old)... Specifically, two are very closely related:<p>Religion - I don&#x27;t buy it. I never have, even from a young age. The idea of a mystical all powerful being floating in the sky watching us has always seemed absurd. And frankly, science has really done a number on my ability to believe in traditional religions. Do I believe some higher-being may exist? Sure. Do I believe in an afterlife? No, I don&#x27;t think anything points to that existing. Maybe it does, but likely it doesn&#x27;t. But trust me I understand how this lack of a philosophy for life has sucked a lot of community, and to some extent, love for life itself, right out of it.<p>Children - If there is no afterlife, then what IS the point of this life? Seriously? Why form bonds, and relationships, and become close with people... if only to die and for it all to vanish? Of course since I&#x27;m alive, I take every chance to form relationships and bonds. But I don&#x27;t believe in continuing this depressing cycle. I don&#x27;t believe in this &quot;system&quot; of pulling someone into the world, only for them to have to say goodbye to everything they&#x27;ve built and everyone they love. I disagree with it at the core of my being, and I&#x27;ve never had a &quot;religion&quot; to help me think otherwise.<p>So yea... having kids, settling down, religion... that&#x27;s all gone for me." :time 1566853257 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803786\.json (:by "metalliqaz" :id "20803786" :kids (20803806) :parent "20803721" :text "kids ARE your only hope of an afterlife" :time 1566853575 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803785\.json (:by "patientplatypus" :id "20803785" :kids (20803980) :parent "20803674" :text "Im on the younger side of the millennial group. Freedom and democracy are wonderful in theory but the US has been run by plutocrats since its inception. It was literally built on slavery and black people have, today, 10% of the wealth of white people. And you can do anything you want in this wonderful society, so long as you can afford it. And thats only one group getting screwed over - for 50 years the median purchasing power has held flat or declined. For markets that are easily captured by the bourgeoisie such as healthcare, education, and housing prices have risen to beyond what anyone can reasonably pay. Technocrats are worried that my generation is having fewer children because were perpetually in debt and have a hard enough time taking care of ourselves. So you see? The teams have changed, but its the same old game of whos getting kicked and whos doing the kicking.<p>Thats what I think of the uniquely American delusion of freedom and democracy, thanks for asking." :time 1566853573 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20786448\.json (:by "rspivak" :descendants 284 :id "20786448" :kids (20787563 20788636 20787642 20787466 20788182 20787067 20788141 20786962 20786918 20786613 20788089 20787870 20786869 20788850 20787628 20787553 20788807 20791889 20786653 20788071 20790309 20788826 20791055 20786750) :score 772 :time 1566644022 :title "Software Architecture Guide" :type "story" :url "https://martinfowler.com/architecture/")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20788182\.json (:by "jeswin" :id "20788182" :kids (20788503 20788358 20790419 20789090) :parent "20786448" :text "I looked at this thread a while back and closed the window, hoping that those early comments don&#x27;t influence the younger practitioners who are on HN.<p>As someone nearing 40 (mainly doing consulting work around boring business apps for a long time), my view is that Martin Folwer&#x27;s biggest contribution is indeed the documentation, and defining the vocabulary to enable discussion around frequently encountered (but perhaps mundane) problems in Enterprise Application development. He isn&#x27;t trying to break new ground, but I&#x27;m glad his writings exist. To pick a very random example, here&#x27;s CQRS defined in an approachable manner[1]. It&#x27;s a great link to send to a team of 50, out of which quite a few will be fresh out of college. And I am pretty sure Martin Folwer has seen plenty of real world code while he was working at Thoughtworks. The ideas in his writings aren&#x27;t conceived in some vaccuum.<p>Some of his early writing isn&#x27;t perhaps as relevant today. For instance, he talks about the flaws of Anemic Domain Model here [2]. Back in the day, many of us tried to enrich the domain model with particular emphasis on reusability. But those things are less relevant in today&#x27;s heterogeous environments where logic lives across in multiple services
(many outside your team&#x27;s control). So just reading through his site will surface a lot of outdated ideas; but that&#x27;s helped a lot of companies along the way when we didn&#x27;t have to aim for web-scale tps. Actually, it might still work for 99% of apps even today.<p>HN tilts towards the experiences of Startups and young founders, but one good lesson to learn early is that we should be more open minded.<p>1: <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;martinfowler.com&#x2F;bliki&#x2F;CQRS.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;martinfowler.com&#x2F;bliki&#x2F;CQRS.html</a>
2: <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;martinfowler.com&#x2F;bliki&#x2F;AnemicDomainModel.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;martinfowler.com&#x2F;bliki&#x2F;AnemicDomainModel.html</a>" :time 1566665359 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20788503\.json (:by "extra_rice" :id "20788503" :kids (20788957) :parent "20788182" :text "I don&#x27;t understand how anemic domain models are irrelevant now especially in a time where a lot of software practitioners seem to observe domain driven design. In the age of microservices, it is very important to determine clear context boundaries. &quot;Logic lives across multiple services&quot; sounds more like a design smell to me. In this case, changing even very simple business requirements could mean changes in multiple parts of the system, which could mean multiple redeployments of many different services. Also implies more complex integration (even e2e) testing." :time 1566668449 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20788957\.json (:by "jbmsf" :id "20788957" :kids (20789813) :parent "20788503" :text "I&#x27;m definitely guilty of using and promoting anemic models. I find that teams have a hard time deciding whether logic is service or domain or whatever and gravitate towards putting everything in one place <i>if</i> domain objects are allowed to be at all smart. On the other hand, people do well with the rule that logic belongs in procedural layers with clear names and some sort of maximum size&#x2F;complexity.<p>I also find that these discussions matter less in microservices because the size of each service is so small that you usually don&#x27;t need more than two layers: one for business logic and one for persistence.<p>I very much agree that microservices create their own challenges at service interfaces, but since these boundaries are usually expressed as http operations instead of object oriented function calls, I look for different solutions, especially various forms of system-wide introspection and testing." :time 1566672535 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20789813\.json (:by "Spearchucker" :id "20789813" :kids (20790464) :parent "20788957" :text "First, anemic models work well in service contexts. You can&#x27;t send a business rule from a web page to a web service as part of a data entity. And so such models have a valid place in the world.<p>Micro services are still services. As such we always validate data crossing a trust boundary - whether monolith or micro service. The rules to do that validation cannot travel with the data.<p>So guilt because anemic strikes me as... odd. Modern connected apps aren&#x27;t written as single-tier Smalltalk apps." :time 1566682004 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20790464\.json (:by "lonelappde" :id "20790464" :kids (20793612) :parent "20789813" :text "You wouldn&#x27;t send a business rule from a web page, you&#x27;d put it in the domain model on the server.<p>The web page has a UI model, not a domain model." :time 1566690978 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20793612\.json (:by "Spearchucker" :id "20793612" :kids (20803784) :parent "20790464" :text "That&#x27;s the point. And yet Fowler objects because it violates encapsulation and information hiding, because it requires a service layer and makes a model less expressive." :time 1566748459 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803784\.json (:by "extra_rice" :id "20803784" :parent "20793612" :text "You can easily serialise a well fleshed out (i.e. non-anemic) object. Does the view layer in this particular example need to know the encapsulated business rule? In my experience, not usually. Otherwise, there&#x27;s most likely a problem with responsibilities. And when that data comes back from the UI, it&#x27;s also relatively easy to reconstitute it back to well fleshed out objects." :time 1566853571 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Software Architecture Guide")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802326\.json (:by "martinrue" :descendants 58 :id "20802326" :kids (20803006 20804310 20803483 20802967 20802916 20803634 20803688 20802848 20803720 20804134 20803794 20804319 20802950) :score 102 :time 1566843556 :title "How Does Esperanto Sound?" :type "story" :url "https://martinrue.com/how-does-esperanto-sound/")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803006\.json (:by "sivers" :id "20803006" :kids (20803473 20803783 20803526 20803063 20803423) :parent "20802326" :text "A couple years ago, I sat down to check out Esperanto the same way that any of us programming language nerds check out another programming language.<p>Polyglot Benny Lewis recommends that if you don&#x27;t know any foreign language, the best place to start is Esperanto, because it&#x27;s so easy. See <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fluentin3months.com&#x2F;2-weeks-of-esperanto&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fluentin3months.com&#x2F;2-weeks-of-esperanto&#x2F;</a><p>I intended to give it about an hour, one Sunday, so I sat down in my chair at 4pm, and went to the most recommended tutorial:<p><a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lernu.net&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lernu.net&#x2F;</a><p>I had so many “whoa!” and “wow!” and “this is amazing!” moments while checking it out that I didn&#x27;t get out of my chair until almost midnight. I didn&#x27;t even notice the house had grown dark around me.<p>It&#x27;s a really fun, simple, easy language to learn. I ended up learning it for six months to a conversational level. I found someone fluent in <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.italki.com&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.italki.com&#x2F;</a> and we talked by Skype for three hours per week. I used Anki flashcards to memorize vocabulary. I slowly read a few books in Esperanto.<p>After six months, I attended the international Esperanto conference in Seoul, Korea, and spoke only Esperanto for a few days. I was glad I was doing it, and somewhat glad I did it, but in hindsight maybe should have used that time to learn Mandarin or another language where I can communicate with people that don&#x27;t speak English.<p>Still, I miss it. Esperanto is wonderfully designed. I highly recommend anyone curious go to <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lernu.net&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lernu.net&#x2F;</a> and work their way through the course there, even if that&#x27;s all you do." :time 1566848656 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803783\.json (:by "tasogare" :id "20803783" :kids (20803821 20803852) :parent "20803006" :text "Dont regret anything about taking this path. Six months of Mandarin is barely enough to learn the consonant and tone system right, starting getting the writing system and learning few patterns and vocabulary. In any case, you wouldnt have held conversations in it like you did with Esperanto." :time 1566853570 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "How Does Esperanto Sound?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803782\.json (:by "rco8786" :id "20803782" :kids (20803913 20803900 20803842) :parent "20803519" :text "33 here - Never cared much for religion..they look, act, feel like cults but there&#x27;s an approved list of these cults apparently. Having a kid changed my life for the better but I was probably in the &quot;not so important&quot; boat before that happened.<p>The big one for me is patriotism. When I was younger I was quite conservative, very pro-USA, refused to believe that any country could possibly do anything better than the way we were doing it. Then I started traveling and actually experiencing the rest of the world, and all of those things just faded away. I&#x27;m still an American - I love the 4th of July and believe in our country&#x27;s future. I just don&#x27;t subscribe to the notion that the USA is best and that I should be proud of it no matter what, or that American&#x27;s are somehow special relative to anyone else." :time 1566853568 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803781\.json (:by "rbanffy" :descendants 0 :id "20803781" :score 2 :time 1566853568 :title "Faced with a Data Deluge, Astronomers Turn to Automation" :type "story" :url "https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/faced-with-a-data-deluge-astronomers-turn-to-automation/" :link_title "Faced with a Data Deluge, Astronomers Turn to Automation")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20796427\.json (:by "bookofjoe" :descendants 329 :id "20796427" :kids (20798434 20798409 20799496 20798350 20803708 20799343 20798749 20803807 20798442 20800730 20798474 20799853 20801511 20798497 20798574 20798425 20798441 20803552 20801155 20798392 20799465 20798593 20798436 20801643 20799495 20799196 20801677 20801682 20798737 20799243 20798433 20798934 20799023 20800225 20800635 20799863 20802400) :score 241 :time 1566776754 :title "Major book publishers sue Amazons Audible over new speech-to-text feature" :type "story" :url "https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/23/20830057/amazon-audible-speech-to-text-feature-lawsuit-major-book-publishers")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20798434\.json (:by "chrisan" :id "20798434" :kids (20798549 20799498 20802421 20798516 20798813 20798443 20800404 20800600 20798522 20802327 20801353 20801108 20799404 20799761 20799386 20799209 20800438 20798634 20802906 20801961 20800932 20800891 20799145 20801566 20801812 20798473 20801007 20799793 20799011) :parent "20796427" :text "&quot;...devalue the market for cross-format products, and harm Publishers, authors, and the consumers who enjoy and rely on books.&quot;<p>Could someone explain the licensing like I&#x27;m 5 that doesn&#x27;t end up with &quot;because publishers want more money&quot;<p>When I buy a book I am buying the story. The authors words on paper (well on digital ink). When I buy an audio book I am buying the authors words performed by a voice actor.<p>I get why the audiobook is more. I&#x27;m paying for the author&#x27;s story + actor. But I never understood why once I have the audiobook I could not be allowed the text version for free.<p>How are they doing anything but trying to charge me twice for the same story?" :time 1566811956 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20798549\.json (:by "dagw" :id "20798549" :kids (20798699 20800941 20798932 20799216 20799677 20799914 20800673) :parent "20798434" :text "<i>that doesn&#x27;t end up with &quot;because publishers want more money&quot;</i><p>Well no, because publishers (and authors) do want more money.<p><i>When I buy a book I am buying the story.</i><p>This is where your analysis goes wrong.<p><i>But I never understood why once I have the audiobook I could not be allowed the text version for free.</i><p>For the same reason you&#x27;re not entitled to a free (or even discount) paperback if you buy the hardback, or why I can&#x27;t return the paperback I dropped in the bathtub for new copy. You&#x27;re not licensing the story, you&#x27;re buying a specific implementation of that story. Furthermore different companies have bought the rights to different versions of that story in different mediums, and they all want to earn their money back." :time 1566813911 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20798699\.json (:by "chrisan" :id "20798699" :kids (20799088 20802881 20798852 20799284 20800110 20800839 20803780 20802407 20801990 20799325 20799751) :parent "20798549" :text "&gt; For the same reason you&#x27;re not entitled to a free (or even discount) paperback if you buy the hardback, or why I can&#x27;t return the paperback I dropped in the bathtub for new copy.<p>I think I need something better than that. You are talking about 2 physical items, I don&#x27;t think anyone would argue just because you buy 1 product off the shelf doesn&#x27;t mean you are entitled to the rest of the shelf<p>An audio book requires author, editor, publisher, actor, distributor<p>A digital book requires the same minus actor<p>Where as a physical book requires the same + printer, binder, possibly artists, typesetter, shipper<p>In this case the audiobook and digital book have same distributor, amazon<p>Say I want to whispersync The Way of Kings. I already own the audiobook but now I have to buy the Kindle version for full price, which is $9.99 (I double checked in a private tab to make sure amazon wasnt giving any discounts)<p>&gt; Furthermore different companies have bought the rights to different versions of that story in different mediums, and they all want to earn their money back.<p>How am I not paying for the same thing twice? If there is some other entity involved I wouldn&#x27;t mind paying a small difference for their service to bring it to that medium.<p>Why is it people get paid twice for contributing nothing to bring it to another medium?" :time 1566816163 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803780\.json (:by "johnrgrace" :id "20803780" :parent "20798699" :text "For the book you mention, The Way of kings. There are two audiobook publishers; McMillan Audio for the single voice work and Graphic Audio (a different company) for the multi voice." :time 1566853561 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Major book publishers sue Amazons Audible over new speech-to-text feature")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803723\.json (:by "x3n0ph3n3" :id "20803723" :kids (20803779) :parent "20803664" :text "So the future home purchaser ends up paying all of those deferred taxes? Yikes." :time 1566853260 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803779\.json (:by "jacobolus" :id "20803779" :parent "20803723" :text "No, the future purchaser pays market price, but some portion of the money that the seller gets from the sale goes to paying back the deferred taxes they owe." :time 1566853561 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Recognizing the signs of disruption in our urban habitat")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803702\.json (:by "cwperkins" :id "20803702" :kids (20803778) :parent "20803519" :text "Interesting to see how they mention Old Democrats are closer in value to Young Republicans. I highly suspected this, but its nice to have data." :time 1566853139 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803778\.json (:by "save_ferris" :id "20803778" :parent "20803702" :text "Its largely why candidates like Biden are so popular; hes pulling a large number of votes from republican defectors that werent on the evangelical train. The centrist wing of the Democratic Party has become much, much more conservative since W. took office." :time 1566853553 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803777\.json (:by "rbanffy" :descendants 0 :id "20803777" :score 3 :time 1566853552 :title "Using Wall Street secrets to reduce the cost of cloud infrastructure" :type "story" :url "http://news.mit.edu/2019/reduce-cost-cloud-infrastructure-0819" :link_title "Using Wall Street secrets to reduce the cost of cloud infrastructure")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803528\.json (:by "jsgo" :id "20803528" :kids (20803666 20803661 20803565) :parent "20803445" :text "&gt; As I understand it, the GPU world is full of patents and dominated by just a few parties.<p>This would be a impediment typically, but considering they&#x27;re blackballed already, how beholden are they to patents?
Block imports? Think that&#x27;s being done already.
Requiring US companies to not do business with them? That&#x27;s being done already.<p>At this point, they just have to ride out the US&#x2F;China trade war and then when things are being negotiated, I imagine a &quot;turn a blind eye&quot; to Huawei is going to be given. They&#x27;re gimped in some ways, but in others they&#x27;ve probably never been more free." :time 1566851974 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803661\.json (:by "redm" :id "20803661" :kids (20803919 20803776) :parent "20803528" :text "You imply Huawei was playing by the &quot;rules&quot; and not already stealing. [1] [2]<p>[1] <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;tech-policy&#x2F;2019&#x2F;01&#x2F;us-indicts-huawei-for-stealing-t-mobile-robot-selling-us-tech-to-iran&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;tech-policy&#x2F;2019&#x2F;01&#x2F;us-indicts-huawe...</a><p>[2] <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;features&#x2F;2019-02-04&#x2F;huawei-sting-offers-rare-glimpse-of-u-s-targeting-chinese-giant\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;features&#x2F;2019-02-04&#x2F;huawei-st...</a>" :time 1566852865 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803776\.json (:by "DiogenesKynikos" :id "20803776" :parent "20803661" :text "&quot;Tappy&quot; again, plus a story from Bloomberg, which has shattered its reputation when it comes to technology&#x2F;security reporting (SuperMicro, among other false articles whipping up anti-Chinese hysteria)." :time 1566853549 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Ascend Chips")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20798370\.json (:by "rbanffy" :descendants 25 :id "20798370" :kids (20799645 20800088 20803209 20803356 20799037) :score 51 :time 1566810971 :title "Device vanishes on command after military missions" :type "story" :url "https://phys.org/news/2019-08-device-military-missions.html")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20800088\.json (:by "whatshisface" :id "20800088" :kids (20803266 20802597 20800191 20802517 20801776) :parent "20798370" :text "This article is talking about &quot;disappearing vehicles,&quot; but you can&#x27;t make a vehicle out of plastic. The best you could do would be to have a vehicle that decomposed into a pile of batteries, motors and wires." :time 1566829453 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802597\.json (:by "na85" :id "20802597" :kids (20802856) :parent "20800088" :text "&quot;Vehicle&quot; is a very broad term, and it wasn&#x27;t so long ago the assumption was that one could not 3D-print a gun out of plastic." :time 1566845717 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802856\.json (:by "i80and" :id "20802856" :kids (20803163 20803130) :parent "20802597" :text "You still cannot, for any meaningful concept of a &quot;gun&quot;. You can kinda print a (rather fragile and crude) lower, but that&#x27;s it as far as I&#x27;ve seen." :time 1566847463 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803163\.json (:by "btilly" :id "20803163" :kids (20803382) :parent "20802856" :text "Define &quot;meaningful concept of a gun&quot;.<p>You can print a plastic device, insert one nail (needed for a firing pin), and fire bullets that can kill a person.<p>Is it accurate? No. Durable? No. A crappy gun? Definitely!<p>But I think that this meets most people&#x27;s idea of a meaningful concept of a gun. A weapon with a barrel and a trigger. Pull the trigger, there is a bang, and a high speed projectile goes where you pointed it at." :time 1566849733 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803382\.json (:by "Retric" :id "20803382" :kids (20804050 20803775) :parent "20803163" :text "If it requires a nail, the final device was not 3D printed." :time 1566851010 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803775\.json (:by "Someone" :id "20803775" :parent "20803382" :text "You can 3D print metal (possibly not well enough for a quality gun, but a crappy one should be doable)<p>Also, I dont think a gun needs a firing pin. You could have a gun where the trigger release a spring that brings two chemicals together that react violently, thus firing the bullet." :time 1566853545 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Device vanishes on command after military missions")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803774\.json (:by "martingalovic" :descendants 0 :id "20803774" :score 2 :time 1566853540 :title "How you can solve GitHub issues in seconds" :type "story" :url "https://medium.com/@martingalovic/solving-github-issues-in-a-second-78eb231b4027" :link_title "How you can solve GitHub issues in seconds")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20799833\.json (:by "mumblemumble" :id "20799833" :kids (20802593 20802736 20802575) :parent "20799705" :text "&gt; as explained by President Obamas former chief economist Lawrence Summers, “government assistance programs” provide people with “an incentive, and the means, not to work.”<p>In the interest of pre-empting one obvious way to interpret that quote, this has a lot to do with the way that social welfare programs tend to be structured, and not necessarily a lot to do with laziness.<p>To take one concrete anecdote, many years ago a bartender at a neighborhood bar I used to frequent had to quit because she got a promotion at her day job. She didn&#x27;t <i>want</i> to. She was actually kind of pissed off about it. The problem was, the pay raise pushed her combined income just above the cutoff point for eligibility for the state&#x27;s Medicaid program, but still got her nowhere near what it would have taken to get health care on the private market. So, in order to advance her career while also retaining access to health care, she had to quit her side gig." :time 1566827316 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802593\.json (:by "pitaj" :id "20802593" :kids (20803293 20802844) :parent "20799833" :text "Don&#x27;t forget public housing programs that concentrate poverty and crime (&quot;The Projects&quot;).<p>It&#x27;s as if assistance programs were designed to maintain a permanent underclass of dependents." :time 1566845669 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803293\.json (:by "phil248" :id "20803293" :kids (20803553) :parent "20802593" :text "To be fair, many states stopped building this kind of housing in the 90&#x27;s. For a few decades now, any affordable housing built in NY or CA or dozens of other states is almost always mixed-income." :time 1566850535 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803553\.json (:by "JAlexoid" :id "20803553" :kids (20803773) :parent "20803293" :text "It doesn&#x27;t help. The 80&#x2F;20 rule for affordable housing in NY(or is it NYC) has screwed up the market... Middle class gets to pay for it, while some places are now getting &quot;poor entrances&quot;." :time 1566852186 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803773\.json (:by "phil248" :id "20803773" :kids (20804131) :parent "20803553" :text "That&#x27;s one stupendously negative way to look at it. Obviously it varies project to project. In California, where I&#x27;ve worked up close with many old and new projects, the new ones are almost always far better off than the old-school projects in terms of safety, cleanliness, community activity, etc. And they provide a lot of market-rate and middle-income housing in addition to low-income and senior housing." :time 1566853533 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "The Poorest 20% of Americans Are Richer on Average Than Most Nations")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802552\.json (:by "standardUser" :id "20802552" :kids (20803133 20802770 20802899 20802633 20803772 20803740) :parent "20800708" :text "This reminds me of a similar land use issue I&#x27;ve seen a hundred times over. In major cities, in the middle of some of the densest, most trafficked, most transit-oriented neighborhoods, you&#x27;ll find vacant lots and storefronts that sit there for <i>years</i>. Places that could, presumably, bring in many thousands of dollars every month in rent instead bring in $0 month after month. And the prime real estate sits unused, despite the thousands of residents and tourists that walk buy every single day. I&#x27;ve seen it in many different cities and towns.<p>Maybe there is some real-estate-specific knowledge I lack that can explain this phenomenon?" :time 1566845394 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803772\.json (:by "achenatx" :id "20803772" :parent "20802552" :text "You can also get cash out of an asset like land by using it to back loans. So you get the advantage of land appreciation and borrowing money on a tax deductible basis at very low interest rates.<p>If the land is appreciating at 10%&#x2F;year then it is a no brainer to borrow against it at 4% (pre tax)" :time 1566853526 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Recognizing the signs of disruption in our urban habitat")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20796506\.json (:by "smacktoward" :descendants 62 :id "20796506" :kids (20797420 20797197 20796884 20796976 20797761 20797015 20797426 20797139) :score 130 :time 1566777844 :title "The Cherokee want a representative in Congress, taking up a 200-year-old promise" :type "story" :url "https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/25/politics/cherokee-nation-congressional-delegate-treaty/")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20796884\.json (:by "Ididntdothis" :id "20796884" :kids (20797317) :parent "20796506" :text "I like this just for the fact of having people in Congress that arent either Democrat or Republican." :time 1566783881 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20797317\.json (:by "Digory" :id "20797317" :kids (20797324 20797614 20797516 20797415) :parent "20796884" :text "[ed. I stand corrected. Article says they have an Obama-administration official lined up.]<p>Odds are the Cherokee would appoint a de facto Republican. They&#x27;re largely conservative and entrepreneurial Oklahomans. The Cherokee Nation runs a bunch of gambling, energy, and defense contracting businesses.<p>It&#x27;s beyond amusing to me that Elizabeth Warren tried to claim in to the Cherokee; that tribe had almost no inclination to overlook her stretching." :time 1566791063 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20797516\.json (:by "cm2012" :id "20797516" :kids (20800876 20797627) :parent "20797317" :text "The vast majority of Native Americans vote Democratic, like most other minority groups: <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;rct=j&amp;url=http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wpsanet.org&#x2F;papers&#x2F;docs&#x2F;Why%2520Do%2520American%2520Indians%2520Vote%2520Democratic%2520(Jeonghun%2520Min).pdf&amp;ved=2ahUKEwi4yuWF3Z_kAhXqc98KHW1mC-EQFjAGegQIChAB&amp;usg=AOvVaw1pB6dAP41QxMNp4YNCrO7p&amp;cshid=1566794724876\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;rct=j&amp;url=http:&#x2F;&#x2F;...</a>" :time 1566794825 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20800876\.json (:by "Digory" :id "20800876" :kids (20803771) :parent "20797516" :text "That study specifically says Native Americans aren&#x27;t as loyal to Democrats as other minority groups.<p>In the survey at the heart of the paper, &quot;a majority of
American Indians voted Republican in the presidential and U.S. House elections.&quot; American Indians in Oklahoma are more likely to identify as Democrat than their white counterparts, but a majority still vote Republican. They&#x27;re social conservatives, but economic interventionists.<p>Native Americans have had long experience with &quot;help&quot; from Washington, especially on social integration. They understand it isn&#x27;t all roses." :time 1566835039 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803771\.json (:by "cm2012" :id "20803771" :parent "20800876" :text "I stand corrected. Would delete my comment if I could" :time 1566853524 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "The Cherokee want a representative in Congress, taking up a 200-year-old promise")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802594\.json (:by "headalgorithm" :descendants 92 :id "20802594" :kids (20804071 20803445 20803509 20804331 20803286 20804245 20803214 20803354 20803361 20803914 20803403) :score 132 :time 1566845689 :title "Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Ascend Chips" :type "story" :url "https://www.tomshardware.com/news/huawei-risc-v-ai-processors-ascend-us,40238.html")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803445\.json (:by "cmrdporcupine" :id "20803445" :kids (20803528 20803484 20803994 20803931 20803481 20803496 20803978 20803904 20803486) :parent "20802594" :text "The problem is that while RISC-V may deliver an excellent open ISA, there is no equivalent open solution for the GPU&#x2F;display controller side. As I understand it, the GPU world is full of patents and dominated by just a few parties. I don&#x27;t think there&#x27;s something that Huawei or other Chinese manufacturers could easily start with and extend.<p>So I can see RISC-V being ideal for applications that are not user facing or don&#x27;t require fancy graphics -- servers, network hardware, microcontrollers, etc. But it would be a tough call to put one in a phone, tablet, or laptop." :time 1566851407 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803486\.json (:by "mises" :id "20803486" :kids (20803770 20803605 20804254 20803853 20804215) :parent "20803445" :text "Let&#x27;s be real, the Chinese have been stealing technology right and left for years. Losses number between $225 and $600 billion per year [0]. One in five companies has had its technology stolen [1]. They will just steal the tech. Or maybe they&#x27;ll decide it&#x27;s easier to work with AMD (they&#x27;re already doing it on the CPU side [2]).<p>This is not popular to say, but it is accurate and my statements are sourced. Feel free to provide rebutting evidence if you disagree.<p>[0]: <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;money.cnn.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;03&#x2F;23&#x2F;technology&#x2F;china-us-trump-tariffs-ip-theft&#x2F;index.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;money.cnn.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;03&#x2F;23&#x2F;technology&#x2F;china-us-trump-t...</a><p>[1]: <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;02&#x2F;28&#x2F;1-in-5-companies-say-china-stole-their-ip-within-the-last-year-cnbc.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;02&#x2F;28&#x2F;1-in-5-companies-say-china-s...</a><p>[2]: <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;AMD%E2%80%93Chinese_joint_venture\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;AMD%E2%80%93Chinese_joint_vent...</a>" :time 1566851691 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803770\.json (:by "hutzlibu" :id "20803770" :parent "20803486" :text "The losses numbers are from a US government investigation. So they might have some bias ... and therefore not really mean anything." :time 1566853518 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Huawei Seeks Independence from the US with RISC-V and Ascend Chips")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803769\.json (:by "zxer197" :dead t :id "20803769" :score 1 :time 1566853505 :title "Write a Ping Sweeper in 4 Lines of Bash" :type "story" :url "https://www.reddit.com/r/Kalilinux/comments/cvu413/write_a_ping_sweeper_in_4_lines_of_bash/" :link_title "Write a Ping Sweeper in 4 Lines of Bash")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803674\.json (:by "jandrese" :id "20803674" :kids (20803733 20803734 20803749 20803855 20803768 20803785 20803746) :parent "20803519" :text "It is interesting that support for nationalism is still popular with the older generations alongside their support for diversity, even after nationalism has been co-opted by groups hostile to diversity.<p>The younger generations see &quot;I support the USA&quot; as &quot;I support the policies of the current administration&quot;, simply because that&#x27;s how said supporters often identify themselves.<p>I think if you asked the younger generations if they still believed in the principles of freedom and democracy that the US represents that they would be largely in favor of that stance, but feel that the current government is not upholding those ideals in a way that they approve of." :time 1566852933 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803768\.json (:by "Circuits" :dead t :id "20803768" :parent "20803674" :text "Personally, I have zero faith in my governments ability to run the country. There isn&#x27;t a single person in Washington who I would trust with my car keys let alone my welfare. I do however realize how lucky I was to be born in the USA and love my country despite all the people in it XD<p>age: 32
affiliation: republican
gender: male" :time 1566853502 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803767\.json (:by "myrandomcomment" :descendants 0 :id "20803767" :score 1 :time 1566853498 :title "MS forcing Lynda user to create Linkedin Learning profiles" :type "story" :url "https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-is-moving-lynda-com-users-to-linkedin-learning-and-not-everyones-happy-about-it/" :link_title "MS forcing Lynda user to create Linkedin Learning profiles")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20795113\.json (:by "xgbi" :descendants 93 :id "20795113" :kids (20795499 20795462 20795191 20795186 20795512 20795632 20795624 20795531 20795686 20797740 20795627 20795479 20795435 20795608 20795628 20799942 20795703 20795813 20796910 20795505 20795623 20795713 20797637 20795386 20799932 20795610 20795659 20795660 20795756 20796622 20796359 20799252 20795769 20795544 20795671 20795541 20795716 20795152 20795636 20802256 20795537 20795649 20796248 20796269 20797954 20797500 20795553 20795672 20795497) :score 94 :text "All in the title.<p>We are transitionning from Macs to &quot;whatever you like&quot; and I would like to look around for a good linux laptop equaling what we can get for the price of a MBPro (13&quot;, 512Go disk, 16G ram for 2400€).<p>I bet the competition can do better (I&#x27;d certainly fancy 32Gb of ram), but I don&#x27;t have much experience in PC type laptops. I use linux a LOT at home so I&#x27;m confident I&#x27;ll be able to install it, but I don&#x27;t have the compatibility story.<p>What would you suggest?
Dell XPS?
Lenovo something?<p>THanks!" :time 1566762931 :title "Ask HN: Best Linux Laptop Replacing a Macbook Pro?" :type "story")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20795462\.json (:by "pixelmonkey" :id "20795462" :kids (20795578 20796002) :parent "20795113" :text "Lenovo X1C is the standard-bearer for a Linux notebook experience that is hassle-free, hardware-wise, and includes a great keyboard, trackpad, screen, battery, all in a slim ultrabook format. I wrote up my experience of a 4th gen model here:<p><a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;amontalenti.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;01&#x2F;lenovo-linux\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;amontalenti.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;01&#x2F;lenovo-linux</a><p>If you care about outdoor usage, opt for the matte IPS screen rather than the glossy options. Lenovo sells both types on almost every model. I&#x27;d also suggest skipping the touchscreen." :time 1566766008 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20796002\.json (:by "jdillaaa" :id "20796002" :kids (20796158) :parent "20795462" :text "I have the X1C. Little thing I noticed about the matte IPS screen (which I selected for outdoor usage much like you said) is that the screen goes black when I wear my sunglasses with a polarized lens, so if your sunglasses are polarized perhaps consider buying some non-polarized ones :-)" :time 1566771780 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20796158\.json (:by "basch" :id "20796158" :kids (20796500) :parent "20796002" :text "or buy polarized lenses with the opposite orientation. if you turn your head 90 degrees can you see the screen?" :time 1566773574 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20796500\.json (:by "crtasm" :id "20796500" :kids (20803766) :parent "20796158" :text "This led me to wonder: why isn&#x27;t there a default orientation for things you look at and another for things you look through?" :time 1566777749 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803766\.json (:by "inimino" :id "20803766" :parent "20796500" :text "They would need to be the same... and if we can&#x27;t get people to standardize on internet protocols, good luck with something that actually affects whether the product works well or not!" :time 1566853487 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Ask HN: Best Linux Laptop Replacing a Macbook Pro?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803519\.json (:by "prostoalex" :descendants 74 :id "20803519" :kids (20803782 20803674 20803946 20803965 20803687 20803721 20803702 20804087 20803800 20803697 20803765) :score 24 :time 1566851912 :title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most" :type "story" :url "https://www.wsj.com/articles/americans-have-shifted-dramatically-on-what-values-matter-most-11566738001?mod=rsswn")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803765\.json (:by "metalliqaz" :id "20803765" :parent "20803519" :text "&gt; &quot;Patriotism, religion and having children rate lower among younger generations than they did two decades ago&quot;<p>The era of hyper-partisanship, unprecedented wealth inequality, and access to the Internet are going to have that effect.<p>I really don&#x27;t know what the older generation really expects. Modern conservatism (little &#x27;c&#x27;, not Trumpism) is really a practice of transferring wealth to the current crop of old people, at the expense of their children and grandchildren. They will get their retirement, because they think they deserve it, even if it means that the whole system will crumble behind them.<p>And they have the nerve to lecture us and lament the withering of &quot;traditional values&quot;. Man, screw that. I can&#x27;t afford kids because I&#x27;m paying into a social security system for you that won&#x27;t be there fore me. I wish they&#x27;d do us the same favor their parents did for them: get into the ground.<p>&#x2F;s, of course. (sorta)" :time 1566853484 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Americans Have Shifted Dramatically on What Values Matter Most")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803764\.json (:by "adamnemecek" :descendants 0 :id "20803764" :score 1 :time 1566853480 :title "Kleros, a Protocol for a Decentralized Justice System [2017]" :type "story" :url "https://medium.com/kleros/kleros-a-decentralized-justice-protocol-for-the-internet-38d596a6300d" :link_title "Kleros, a Protocol for a Decentralized Justice System [2017]")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20800708\.json (:by "oftenwrong" :descendants 98 :id "20800708" :kids (20802375 20803710 20802552 20802707 20803627 20802212 20803045 20802700 20803345 20802798 20802596 20802864) :score 148 :time 1566833823 :title "Recognizing the signs of disruption in our urban habitat" :type "story" :url "https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2019/8/21/whats-wrong-with-this-picture")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802707\.json (:by "mmanfrin" :id "20802707" :kids (20802896 20803319) :parent "20800708" :text "I&#x27;m glad the article brought up Prop 13. It is my belief that Prop 13 is the biggest cancer on the state of California, and one that we will almost never be rid of. Prop 13 is why people don&#x27;t move. Prop 13 is why California occasionally has budget issues. Prop 13 makes my parents home property taxes 1&#x2F;4th the amount of my own, despite their home being 4x the value of mine." :time 1566846388 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802896\.json (:by "dbcurtis" :id "20802896" :kids (20803050 20802968 20803664 20802965 20803401 20802980 20802990 20803451 20803430 20803395 20802963 20803269 20802991) :parent "20802707" :text "Prop 13 was a reaction against confiscatory taxes that broke an important social contract.<p>The contract: If you save, invest, and pay off your home mortgage so that you own it free and clear, later in life when you are retired and living on a fixed income no one can come along and confiscate the property that you bought and paid for fair and square.<p>The contract breech: Property taxes going up so fast that the only possible solution was to sell your home. Now, of course the value of the home was going up, which was what was driving the taxes. But forcing pensioners to sell their homes, disrupting&#x2F;destroying a life-time of plans and work was never going to be a smooth ride -- who could have thought that it would be?<p>The government pre-Prop 13 was viewed as kleptocratic by a sizeable portion of the population, with arguably good reason.<p>So, do you have a better solution that has empathy for pensioners that played by the rules all their lives and have plans to settle into modest enjoyment of their so-called &quot;golden years&quot;? Prop 13 was an attempt to stop perceived thievery, a crude bludgeon, perhaps, but a sufficient number of desperate people saw it as a solution to get it enacted." :time 1566847786 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803664\.json (:by "troydavis" :id "20803664" :kids (20803763 20803723) :parent "20802896" :text "&gt; The contract breech: Property taxes going up so fast that the only possible solution was to sell your home. Now, of course the value of the home was going up, which was what was driving the taxes.<p>The State of California offers another solution. It&#x27;s called Property Tax Postponement: <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sco.ca.gov&#x2F;ardtax_prop_tax_postponement.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sco.ca.gov&#x2F;ardtax_prop_tax_postponement.html</a><p>&quot;The State Controllers Property Tax Postponement Program allows homeowners who are seniors, are blind, or have a disability to defer current-year property taxes on their principal residence if they meet certain criteria including 40 percent equity in the home and an annual household income of $35,500 or less.&quot;<p>The taxes are deferred until a change of control, like due to a sale or transfer to next of kin. Many or most high-cost-of-living jurisdictions have similar programs." :time 1566852877 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803763\.json (:by "zeveb" :id "20803763" :kids (20803803) :parent "20803664" :text "Thats a <i>really</i> low annual household income, particularly for California. But perhaps it&#x27;s tweakable." :time 1566853466 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Recognizing the signs of disruption in our urban habitat")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20794861\.json (:by "neilkakkar" :descendants 265 :id "20794861" :kids (20796479 20795779 20795492 20795526 20795682 20796088 20795861 20795720 20795557 20797001 20795961 20797491 20798389 20795688 20799236 20797990 20797883 20797199 20796381 20803670 20798119 20795407 20795735 20796159) :score 764 :time 1566760248 :title "Things I Learnt from a Senior Software Engineer" :type "story" :url "https://neilkakkar.com/things-I-learnt-from-a-senior-dev.html")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20796088\.json (:by "caymanjim" :id "20796088" :kids (20796115 20796176 20796151 20797325 20797442 20796344 20797114 20796202 20797183) :parent "20794861" :text "&gt; I like a bit of humour in my code, and I wanted to name it GodComponent.<p>No. Just no. Do not ever be funny in code. No one else likes your humor, and it&#x27;s distracting. (Ignoring the other reasons &quot;GodComponent&quot; is a bad name.)" :time 1566772815 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20796151\.json (:by "philwelch" :id "20796151" :kids (20800965 20797638 20796273) :parent "20796088" :text "I think it&#x27;s okay to be funny in test cases. For instance, my test data has included the user-agent string, &quot;The Thrilla In Mozilla&quot;." :time 1566773517 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20796273\.json (:by "jchook" :id "20796273" :kids (20798555 20796881 20796386) :parent "20796151" :text "As long as you don&#x27;t go into potentially offensive humor" :time 1566774942 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20796386\.json (:by "lonelappde" :id "20796386" :kids (20797049 20796844) :parent "20796273" :text "Upthread we have someone boasting about naming their business machines after porn stars." :time 1566776189 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20796844\.json (:by "jchook" :id "20796844" :kids (20798505) :parent "20796386" :text "I had to learn the hard way" :time 1566782938 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20798505\.json (:by "Moru" :id "20798505" :kids (20801538) :parent "20796844" :text "I worked with home support for an ISP. A few times I was at a customer helping with a router and the mother call her son to get the password for the router. Not always a nice password..." :time 1566813216 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801538\.json (:by "philwelch" :id "20801538" :kids (20803762) :parent "20798505" :text "I very much believe in offensive passwords&#x2F;passphrases (maybe not for wireless routers) specifically because:<p>(a) You&#x27;re not supposed to tell anybody what they are.<p>(b) Offensive passphrases are easier to remember." :time 1566838955 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803762\.json (:by "ses1984" :id "20803762" :parent "20801538" :text "Also easier to crack if an attacker knows that detail." :time 1566853465 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Things I Learnt from a Senior Software Engineer")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20773158\.json (:by "jjgomo33" :descendants 182 :id "20773158" :kids (20773921 20776586 20789895 20789736 20791902 20790480 20789511 20789270 20776849 20776077 20774678 20789681 20773931 20789103 20780344 20776371 20790240 20789130 20789990 20789848 20782028 20773815 20791116 20792249 20777368 20774358) :score 237 :time 1566514905 :title "Why Clojure?" :type "story" :url "https://blog.cleancoder.com/uncle-bob/2019/08/22/WhyClojure.html")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20776586\.json (:by "fsloth" :id "20776586" :kids (20789359 20787793 20789290) :parent "20773158" :text "Can anyone give a pro&#x2F;cons analysis of a ML variant versus of a Lisp variant. Let&#x27;s say F# versus Clojure?<p>One of the general arguments in Lisp vs the world is that lisp is more concise. F# is really concise. It has datastructures as intrinsic part of the language syntax (just like Clojure, i.e in F# [|,,,|] is an array and in Clojure [...] is a vector, so more or less the same thing). Furthermore, the type inferences concierges the developer through the regular bureaucracy involved with strong type systems so effortlessly that you seldom notice it ... unless your code does not compile, in which case it&#x27;s wrong somewhere and you need to fix it (which you needed to do anyway).<p>Ok, so for the sake of the argument, let&#x27;s say the syntax is equally light for F# and Clojure, and their support for immutability is in the same ballpark. And let&#x27;s remove the argument &quot;a type system is an encumbrance&quot; because that will only lead to situation specific debates - one side will say that massive refactorings are a pita without types, and the other side responds that in Clojure you can use data schemas and should have unit tests anyway. And those discussions never lead anywhere conclusive.<p>So, besides the above mentioned topics, is there anything general one can say of the distinctive advantages of these two languages in specific situations, including how their two different ecosystems and runtimes affect the calculus?<p>I suppose it&#x27;s extremely rare to have experts who have participated in any large scale industrial developments with both of the languages, but if there are, it would be really nice to hear their opinion. And the things I listed as &quot;outside of the discussion&quot; might actually be critical, who knows..." :time 1566561730 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20789359\.json (:by "pbiggar" :id "20789359" :kids (20803499 20793115 20793398) :parent "20776586" :text "My previous startup (CircleCI) was written in Clojure, my current one (Darklang) is written in OCaml. I decided not to use Clojure again because it&#x27;s not statically typed, and my number one frustration when I coded in the CircleCI codebase was that it was very very hard to know what shape a value had, and whether it could be null.<p>OCaml certainly has a lot of flaws, and is not nearly as &quot;nice&quot; a language as clojure, but the productivity of static typing (in the statically typed functional language sense, not the C++&#x2F;Java sense) is huge. Knowing you can do a big refactor and the type system has your back is massive.<p>We sponsored core.typed to add types to Clojure, but there were flaws at the time (they have have been fixed since), and we didn&#x27;t end up sticking with it.<p>So Clojure I wouldn&#x27;t use again. OCaml I would, despite having significant flaws (every language has significant flaws)." :time 1566676741 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803499\.json (:by "beders" :id "20803499" :kids (20803761) :parent "20789359" :text "Ghostwheel to the rescue<p>(&gt;defn my-fun [a b] [int? -&gt; int?])" :time 1566851800 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803761\.json (:by "pbiggar" :id "20803761" :parent "20803499" :text "I haven&#x27;t seen anything to like in Clojure spec. Maybe I don&#x27;t get it, but i really dont get it." :time 1566853462 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Why Clojure?")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803032\.json (:by "kennyg25" :descendants 10 :id "20803032" :kids (20803223 20804311 20803713 20803699 20804030 20803719 20803539) :score 13 :text "I am a college student trying to learn low-level CS concepts, such as bit manipulation, memory and runtime performance, code compilation techniques, etc. for a CS course I will be taking in the fall. I already plan on attending office hours and taking advantage of online resources such as Stack Overflow. However, I learn best via 1:1 tutoring so I am trying to find someone I can meet, either online or preferably, in person who I can work with. However, I am having some difficulty finding someone who is 1) extremely knowledgeable in this area of CS and 2) would take the time to meet up with me. I find this website invaluable and was hoping that perhaps someone reading this would be interested in my offer, or at least would know someone who might be interested. However, beyond HN, what would be the most efficient way to go about searching for this type of tutor? What other resources am I not considering? How else can I go about learning about low-level machine code?<p>Some more information: I live near Mountain View and am free in the afternoons to meet-up, and I will also pay a generous amount as well for anyone who is an expert in these areas. For those interested, please feel free to message me - my email is provided in my profile." :time 1566848901 :title "Ask HN: I am looking for a C and Assembly mentor" :type "story")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803719\.json (:by "sys_64738" :id "20803719" :kids (20803760) :parent "20803032" :text "I learned C by reading K&amp;R." :time 1566853224 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803760\.json (:by "scandox" :id "20803760" :kids (20804040) :parent "20803719" :text "Well not everybody can do this kind of top down learning. But more power to you, though, because that&#x27;s a great capability." :time 1566853456 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Ask HN: I am looking for a C and Assembly mentor")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802684\.json (:by "brundolf" :id "20802684" :kids (20804238 20803759 20804248) :parent "20799705" :text "The &quot;study&quot; cited was done by the very website citing it, and designed expressly to refute a NYT article that the author didn&#x27;t like. I&#x27;m not going to defend the NYT as a paragon of level-headed reporting, but when your only source is yourself, that&#x27;s a red flag. When your website is literally named &quot;Just Facts&quot;, as a preempted defense against the narrative-heavy articles it actually contains, that&#x27;s a red flag.<p>America&#x27;s poverty situation and cultural challenges are extremely complex. Nobody chooses to be poor. Plenty of poor people - I&#x27;m sure not every single one of them - aren&#x27;t able to change their situation despite plenty of hustle. Welfare alone isn&#x27;t the solution. But making reductionist blog posts on the internet in an attempt to justify your own urge to write people off as morally bankrupt solely based on their finances isn&#x27;t helping anyone at all." :time 1566846261 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803759\.json (:by "vannevar" :id "20803759" :kids (20804070) :parent "20802684" :text "The source data linked in the article are a bit fishy. On page 36, you see where (I assume) the author derived his consumption data, though the source is by household and somewhere along the line he converted it to per-capita. In that source table, organized by quintile, the consumption for the highest quintile is about twice that of the lowest. But in the same document, on page 35, the income by quintile shows the top 20% earning 10x the income of the lowest 20% (including government benefits). So the wealthiest 20% earn ten times as much, but spend only twice as much? Where does the rest of the money go? It seems highly unlikely that both tables are accurate." :time 1566853451 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "The Poorest 20% of Americans Are Richer on Average Than Most Nations")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20800832\.json (:by "brundolf" :descendants 423 :id "20800832" :kids (20800907 20801807 20801962 20801404 20803154 20801507 20802413 20801276 20804210 20803276 20804095 20801754 20801133 20802660 20803249 20801909 20802852 20803068 20801130 20803088 20801875 20803990 20801977 20801265) :score 261 :time 1566834749 :title "Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based chicken" :type "story" :url "https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/26/20833145/beyond-meat-kfc-fried-chicken-test-plant-based-sample-date")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20800907\.json (:by "brundolf" :id "20800907" :kids (20801734 20802527 20802448 20801478 20801773 20801757 20804243 20801618 20802402 20803751 20801616 20801445 20801882 20801223 20801330 20803654 20801707 20801694 20801700 20800943 20802112 20801470) :parent "20800832" :text "I think it&#x27;s fascinating how all these fast-food chains are jumping on artificial meat. It makes perfect sense: meat is expensive and difficult to work with, so low-cost chains like these have been serving really disgustingly low-quality meat for quite some time now; in some cases it could barely even be called meat.<p>Plant-based meat, on the other hand, can be both cheaper <i>and</i> less gross at the same time, <i>and</i> it might help them cut down on calories and improve their health image.<p>I wonder what impact it&#x27;ll have on climate change when McDonalds stops buying real beef." :time 1566835291 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20801734\.json (:by "tptacek" :id "20801734" :kids (20804368 20802877 20804340 20803408 20802595 20801967 20804173 20801748 20802851 20802347 20801965 20802970 20802500 20802185) :parent "20800907" :text "Can you make a clearer, better-cited case for &quot;low cost chains serve meat that could barely even be called meat&quot;? KFC serves (primarily) whole muscle chicken†, and the general US appetite for &quot;dark meat&quot; chicken is so low that we&#x27;ve been accused of &quot;dumping&quot; it on other countries and messing up their markets --- KFC seems to have no trouble sourcing its inputs effectively. KFC&#x27;s suppliers include all the major chicken producers; the same firms that put chicken breasts on the shelves at grocery stores. KFC&#x27;s biggest competitor is going antibiotic-free this year; at least one of KFC&#x27;s suppliers already has. That&#x27;s a step <i>past</i> supermarket chicken.<p>I&#x27;m not saying Tyson chicken is <i>good</i>; it&#x27;s CAFO meat, which is not great for the environment or for flavor. But it&#x27;s not &quot;barely meat&quot;; it&#x27;s meat that basically sets the standard for meat quality in one of the meat-eatingest countries in the world, and has set that standard for over 50 years.<p>† <i>Don&#x27;t get me started on how irresponsible the public interest campaign against transglutaminase franken-meat is.</i>" :time 1566840054 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803408\.json (:by "flyGuyOnTheSly" :id "20803408" :kids (20803742 20803714 20803476) :parent "20801734" :text "&gt;Can you make a clearer, better-cited case for &quot;low cost chains serve meat that could barely even be called meat&quot;?<p>Taco bell famously admit a few years ago that their beef filling was only 88% beef.<p>CBC did an investigative report in Canada recently that revealed subway&#x27;s chicken was only 50% chicken. [0] The rest being a smörgåsbord of fillers. The 4 other chains studied in the tests didn&#x27;t do much better.<p>[0] <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cbc.ca&#x2F;news&#x2F;business&#x2F;marketplace-chicken-fast-food-1.3993967\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cbc.ca&#x2F;news&#x2F;business&#x2F;marketplace-chicken-fast-fo...</a>" :time 1566851155 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803476\.json (:by "tptacek" :id "20803476" :kids (20803758) :parent "20803408" :text "Unless McDonalds is committing fraud by listing chicken breast fillet (and no other proteins) in the ingredients for its grilled chicken sandwich, this is likely measurement error.<p>I have no idea what Subway is selling. Subway squicks me out, as does Taco Bell." :time 1566851615 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803758\.json (:by "693471" :id "20803758" :kids (20804341) :parent "20803476" :text "Little known secret: Subway&#x27;s Cold Cut Combo is all turkey<p>COLD CUT COMBO: Turkey Bologna: Mechanically separated turkey, water, contains less than 2% of: salt, corn syrup solids, potassium lactate, dextrose, sodium diacetate, sodium erythorbate, sodium nitrite, flavorings. Turkey Ham: Cured turkey thigh meat, salt, contains less than 2% of: potassium lactate, brown sugar, sodium tripolyphosphate, dextrose, sodium diacetate, sodium erythorbate, smoke flavor, sodium nitrite, water. Turkey Salami: Dark turkey, mechanically separated turkey, water, salt, contains less than 2% of: potassium lactate, sugar, sodium tripolyphosphate, dextrose, spice and flavorings, sodium diacetate, sodium erythorbate, smoke flavor, sodium nitrite<p>So plant based milks can&#x27;t be called milk, plant based proteins can&#x27;t be called meats, but hot dogs can be called hot dogs and have no dog meat in them, riced cauliflower is under attack, Parmesan (cheese byproduct and sawdust) in a can is considered not misleading, a California Port wine is impossible but nobody cares, etc<p>Subway&#x27;s Salami, Ham, and Bologna can be made with turkey instead of the cuts you&#x27;d expect because money.<p>It&#x27;s always about money. They want consumers buying their products in stores and if you buy enough product for your restaurants you can call it anything you want.<p>America." :time 1566853448 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based chicken")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20799705\.json (:by "andrenth" :descendants 126 :id "20799705" :kids (20802684 20802680 20799833 20802533 20802892 20804293 20802640 20802825 20802969 20802703 20802718 20802561 20802539 20802648 20802532 20799832 20802788 20799840 20803364 20802802 20802907 20799839 20799836 20799755 20799811 20799838 20802722) :score 126 :time 1566826297 :title "The Poorest 20% of Americans Are Richer on Average Than Most Nations" :type "story" :url "https://www.justfacts.com/news_poorest_americans_richer_than_europe.asp")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802680\.json (:by "gus_massa" :id "20802680" :kids (20802842 20802727 20803411 20802812 20802945) :parent "20799705" :text "&gt; <i>The OECD data is particularly flawed because it is based on “income,” which excludes [...] healthcare provided by Medicaid, free clinics, and the Childrens Health Insurance Program.</i><p>Don&#x27;t many of the other countries offer some kind of &quot;free&quot; medical service for everyone? Should they add this to the average income of those countries?<p>Anecdote time. Here in Argentina we have:<p>* Free hospitals and free ambulances for emergencies, and even some standard procedures. The quality and waiting time may vary. It&#x27;s free for everyone. Should they count this as
&quot;income&quot;?<p>* Also we get a compulsory 5% discount of the salary for additional healthcare that is controlled by the working union, this includes dental care. The quality and waiting time may vary. I&#x27;m not sure if they would count this 5% as income.<p>* Also you can pay a private medical plan or pay to a medic for a consultation. The quality and waiting time may vary, but it&#x27;s usually faster and you have more options to pick a good medic hopefully." :time 1566846253 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802842\.json (:by "jandrewrogers" :id "20802842" :kids (20803042 20803558 20802904) :parent "20802680" :text "Poor people in the US, the demographic being discussed here, all have access to free medical care at the same clinics middle class people use. This is partly paid for by the government from taxes and partly subsidized by the non-poor users of medical services.<p>I grew up very poor in the US. We never paid for anything healthcare related, and still have poor relatives receiving excellent free healthcare today." :time 1566847336 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803042\.json (:by "rgbrenner" :id "20803042" :kids (20803272) :parent "20802842" :text "False. Medicaid eligibility requirements vary by state. In Mississippi, for example, they cover children and pregnant women at roughly the same income level as other states... but the parents of those children aren&#x27;t covered if the household makes more than $227&#x2F;mo (+78&#x2F;mo for each additional household member).<p>If you don&#x27;t have children? No coverage unless you&#x27;re in a very specific category (disabled, covered by medicare, etc)... no matter how poor and destitute you are.<p><a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.healthinsurance.org&#x2F;mississippi-medicaid&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.healthinsurance.org&#x2F;mississippi-medicaid&#x2F;</a><p>Missouri: no medicaid if you aren&#x27;t disabled or have children (and you&#x27;re below 381&#x2F;mo for a family of 3):
<a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.healthinsurance.org&#x2F;missouri-medicaid&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.healthinsurance.org&#x2F;missouri-medicaid&#x2F;</a><p>Same in TN: <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.healthinsurance.org&#x2F;tennessee-medicaid&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.healthinsurance.org&#x2F;tennessee-medicaid&#x2F;</a><p>Same in TX: <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.healthinsurance.org&#x2F;texas-medicaid&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.healthinsurance.org&#x2F;texas-medicaid&#x2F;</a><p>Seriously, go through the states that haven&#x27;t accepted the ACA expansion: <a href=\"https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.healthinsurance.org&#x2F;medicaid&#x2F;\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.healthinsurance.org&#x2F;medicaid&#x2F;</a><p>These poor people are not getting Medicaid." :time 1566848961 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803272\.json (:by "jandrewrogers" :id "20803272" :kids (20803652 20803494 20803595 20803757) :parent "20803042" :text "Who said anything about Medicaid? That is a Federal program that States can opt into to varying degrees, and most States have longstanding separate programs for the purpose. The landscape of how free healthcare is delivered is complicated. Like education, it is the prerogative of the States so any Federal view is only going to tell a small part of the story.<p>I should add, all of my experience is decades before the ACA Medicaid expansion." :time 1566850450 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803757\.json (:by "novok" :id "20803757" :parent "20803272" :text "A lot of the these programs don&#x27;t cover a good chunk of the working poor. If you worked full time at a minimum wage job in california for example, you&#x27;d be over the limits and wouldn&#x27;t have healthcare as a result." :time 1566853445 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "The Poorest 20% of Americans Are Richer on Average Than Most Nations")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802717\.json (:by "wholeness" :descendants 12 :id "20802717" :kids (20802839 20802816) :score 11 :time 1566846424 :title "The New Museum of the Dog" :type "story" :url "https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/art-review-women-and-dogs-in-art-in-the-20th-century-smart-serious-fun/#slide-1")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802839\.json (:by "ojbyrne" :id "20802839" :kids (20802897) :parent "20802717" :text "From their website: “Out of courtesy to our neighbors, only service dogs and invited demonstration dogs are allowed in the museum”
:-(" :time 1566847286 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20802897\.json (:by "stronglikedan" :id "20802897" :kids (20803119) :parent "20802839" :text "All dogs are service dogs when you&#x27;re not allowed to challenge it." :time 1566847788 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803119\.json (:by "mttyng" :id "20803119" :kids (20803258) :parent "20802897" :text "Im sure the following statement will lead to my e-crucifixion, but:<p>As much as I love dogs (RIP to my passed, canine buddy), I think the “take your dogs everywhere” thing is out of control now. Maybe thats not that dangerous of a sentiment, but I shouldnt have to dodge your dog in the supermarket.<p>At what point do we as a society start pushing back on this?" :time 1566849360 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803258\.json (:by "drngdds" :id "20803258" :kids (20803656 20803302) :parent "20803119" :text "Service dogs are a real thing that people with certain disabilities actually need. As such, I really hope the answer to your question is &quot;never.&quot;" :time 1566850364 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803302\.json (:by "AnimalMuppet" :id "20803302" :kids (20803455 20803465 20803756) :parent "20803258" :text "I recently went to the hardware store, and there were five separate people with dogs. I&#x27;m going to guess that the number that were actual service dogs was either zero or one, and my money is on zero.<p>Sure, people should be able to take a service dog everywhere. It does not follow that people should be able to take <i>any</i> dog everywhere." :time 1566850568 :type "comment" :score 0)) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803756\.json (:by "trhway" :id "20803756" :kids (20804268) :parent "20803302" :text "why can&#x27;t i take my dog anywhere? He is more well behaved and cleaner then many people and children. Typically alleged sanitary&#x2F;health issues wrt. dogs presence are obviously moot once you take a look say at France where dogs are welcome in restaurants for example and nobody is dying from cholera&#x2F;etc.." :time 1566853436 :type "comment" :score 0 :link_title "The New Museum of the Dog")) (https://hacker-news\.firebaseio\.com/v0/item/20803737\.json (:by "danielam" :descendants 0 :id "20803737" :score 1 :time 1566853326 :title "Predication in the Logic of Terms (1989)" :type "story" :url "https://projecteuclid.org/euclid.ndjfl/1093635336" :link_title "Predication in the Logic of Terms (1989)")))